From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: AS15169 209.85.128.0/17 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, URIBL_BLOCKED shortcircuit=no autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Original-To: unicorn-public@bogomips.org Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DCBE1FEC6 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 22:48:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so6722118ieb.18 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:48:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.25.196 with SMTP id e4mr12500276igg.28.1406933281597; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: obscure.meditating.ape@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.18.38 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:48:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20140801213202.GA2729@dcvr.yhbt.net> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 17:48:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5ctEEYjB4rcVuD5SnfDK_XOxrYs Message-ID: Subject: Re: Please move to github From: Gabe da Silveira To: Michael Grosser Cc: Eric Wong , unicorn-public@bogomips.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: PublicInbox::Filter 0.0.1 List-Id: I am a huge fan of GitHub and use it daily in my professional job, but both the original message and now this comes off full of youthful arrogance and hubris (in addition to abysmal grammar). GitHub is not the only way to do open-source, and developers who refuse to use something other than GitHub tend to be people impressed by superficial polish, but lacking understanding in the type of deep engineering that allows for things like the Linux kernel (or preforking app servers like Unicorn) to work. There is more to software engineering than what is fashionable in the last 5 years. Please be more respectful of the maintainers of serious software like Unicorn than to piss on their choice of project management tools and techniques. On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Michael Grosser wrote: > Using github would mean more contributors, better software and > especially helping more people (compare patches/issues/communication > on unicorn to any other os project and github and the difference > should be apparent), > and I think that's what OS is about ... it's not ideal, but it's the > best we got. > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Eric Wong wrote: > > Michael Grosser wrote: > >> Current state makes it very hard to mange/search/fork/open-issues etc > >> especially for newcomers, > >> please move the project to github so we can have nice disussions > >> forks/prs etc goodness. > > > > No. Never. Github is proprietary communications tool which requires > > users to accept a terms of service and login. That gives power and > > influence to a single entity (and a for-profit organization at that). > > > > Contributing to unicorn is *socially* as easy as contributing to git or > > the Linux kernel. There is no need to signup for anything, no need to > > ever touch a bloated web browser. > > > > The reason I contribute to Free Software is because I am against any > > sort of lock-in or proprietary features. It absolutely sickens me to > > encounter users who seem to be incapable of using git without a > > proprietary communications tool. > >