From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on dcvr.yhbt.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-ASN: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=3.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, URIBL_BLOCKED shortcircuit=no autolearn=unavailable version=3.3.2 X-Original-To: yahns-public@yhbt.net Received: from localhost (dcvr.yhbt.net [127.0.0.1]) by dcvr.yhbt.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92DA1FA57; Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:01:21 +0000 From: Eric Wong To: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" Cc: yahns-public@yhbt.net Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] bump published Ruby version requirement to 2.0 Message-ID: <20141217120121.GA18016@dcvr.yhbt.net> References: <1418770459-28756-1-git-send-email-e@80x24.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: List-Id: "Lin Jen-Shin (godfat)" wrote: > Hi, this is a bit off-topic, but I am wondering: Not off topic at all. > On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 6:54 AM, Eric Wong wrote: > > We'll also stop advertising Rubinius compatibility: I am no longer > > willing to deal with proprietary bug trackers. > > Is it because they are using GitHub's issue tracker? Yes, for rubinius and their rubysl-* stdlib > Is there any freely hosted issue tracker you might be > suggesting? I can tolerate Redmine for mainline Ruby. Unfortunately it still requires login+registration (but no legal terms-of-service to accept). Debian's email-based BTS is the best I've seen (no registration); but I do not like "formal" things such as classifying/prioritizing/assigning/organizing bugs: I just fix bugs. For some projects, I'd rather file bug reports against the Debian package and let the Debian maintainers deal with upstream trackers. Having only a mailing list works best for me :) > Last time I tried to use freelists.org to replace Google Groups, > it works ok. I am all for free software, but don't really want to > bother any hosting :( savannah.nongnu.org offers ad-free hosting of mailing lists, bug tracking, file hosting, etc. They're rather picky of things like having copyright notices on every single file (even more so than Debian), but it's not limited to GNU projects or even GNU licenses. I've only tried savannah's mailing list hosting and it seems fairly spam-free (easy with Postgrey, but the delays can be annoying). I still prefer public-inbox+mlmmj (what this list uses) to Mailman, though: password-free workflow, good defaults in mlmmj, git synchronization of archives, SpamAssassin+incrond integration... I actually don't have a /huge/ problem with Google Groups mailing lists because it's still SMTP (not a proprietary API), and it's subscribable w/o a Google account (for now). Of course, their spam filtering sucks and as a result: every Google Group I'm on requires subscription to post or even first-post-moderation. I think their web-based archives also require proprietary JS to browse. mail-archive.com and gmane.org come in handy there. That said, running public-inbox+mlmmj has been easier than I expected it to be the past 7 months (as far as dealing with spam + bounces go).