From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu, ktkhai@parallels.com,
rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de, juri.lelli@gmail.com,
pang.xunlei@linaro.org, oleg@redhat.com,
wanpeng.li@linux.intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/18] seqcount: Introduce raw_write_seqcount_barrier()
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:40:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150618104015.GL19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150618094014.GC1094@gmail.com>
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:40:14AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> In what retarded use-case do unasked for speculative writes even make any sense
> beyond as a sadistic tool to make parallel, threaded code even more fragile??
So what worries me most is the "Takeaways" from the document:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2015/n4455.html
Those read like a 'fuck you' to 30 years of concurrent code in C.
Sure, its nice and all that they finally have something that's
standardized, and this might be an option for new projects (in reality
it might only really be an option in another 5-10 years).
But the active encouragement to break existing code is utterly fucked.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-18 10:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-11 12:46 [PATCH 00/18] sched: balance callbacks v4 Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 01/18] sched: Replace post_schedule with a balance callback list Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 15:32 ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-06-18 23:00 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 02/18] sched: Use replace normalize_task() with __sched_setscheduler() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:00 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 03/18] sched: Allow balance callbacks for check_class_changed() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:01 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 04/18] sched,rt: Remove return value from pull_rt_task() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:01 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 05/18] sched,rt: Convert switched_{from,to}_rt() / prio_changed_rt() to balance callbacks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:01 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] sched, rt: Convert switched_{from, to}_rt() " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 06/18] sched,dl: Remove return value from pull_dl_task() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:02 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 07/18] sched,dl: Convert switched_{from,to}_dl() / prio_changed_dl() to balance callbacks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:02 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] sched, dl: Convert switched_{from, to}_dl() " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 08/18] hrtimer: Remove HRTIMER_STATE_MIGRATE Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 22:18 ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 09/18] hrtimer: Fix hrtimer_is_queued() hole Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 22:18 ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 10/18] seqcount: Rename write_seqcount_barrier() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 22:19 ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 11/18] seqcount: Introduce raw_write_seqcount_barrier() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 15:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-11 21:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-12 7:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-12 18:59 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-17 12:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-17 14:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-17 15:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-17 15:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-17 16:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-17 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-17 16:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-17 17:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-17 18:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-18 9:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 9:40 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-18 10:40 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-06-18 16:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-18 17:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-18 17:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-18 22:19 ` [tip:timers/core] seqcount: Introduce raw_write_seqcount_barrier( ) tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 12/18] hrtimer: Allow hrtimer::function() to free the timer Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 22:19 ` [tip:timers/core] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 13/18] sched,dl: Fix sched class hopping CBS hole Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:02 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 14/18] sched: Move code around Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:02 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 15/18] sched: Streamline the task migration locking a little Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:03 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 16/18] lockdep: Simplify lock_release() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:03 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 17/18] lockdep: Implement lock pinning Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:03 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 12:46 ` [PATCH 18/18] sched,lockdep: Employ " Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-18 23:04 ` [tip:sched/hrtimers] " tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-12-29 5:41 ` [PATCH 00/18] sched: balance callbacks v4 Byungchul Park
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