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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Cc: dsterba@suse.cz, Liu Bo <bo.li.liu@oracle.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, fdmanana@suse.com, kzak@redhat.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, chuck.lever@oracle.com,
	mingming.cao@oracle.com
Subject: Re: i_version vs iversion (Was: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Btrfs: add noi_version option to disable MS_I_VERSION)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:59:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624235900.GC7943@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150624231750.GE14324@thunk.org>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:17:50PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:02:15PM +0200, David Sterba wrote:
> > 
> > This sounds similar to what Dave proposed, a per-inode I_VERSION
> > attribute that can be changed through chattr. Though the negated meaning
> > of the flag could be confusing, I had to reread the paragraph again.
> 
> Dave did not specify an I_VERSION attribute that would be stored on
> disk.  Instead he talked about a inode flag that would be set when the
> struct inode is created by the file system.

Right.

> This would allow file systems to permanently configure (on a per-inode
> basis) whether or not a particular inode would require a forced
> i_version update any time the inode's data or metadata is modified.  I
> suppose you could initialized the inode flag from an on-disk
> attribute, but that wasn't implied by Dave's proposal, at least as I
> understood it.

It enables filesystems to do this. If btrfs want to add an on-disk
flag to turn off I_VERSION on a per-inode basis, or imply it from
some other on-disk flag, then they are welcome to do so and the
above infrastructure change will support it.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: dsterba-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org,
	Liu Bo <bo.li.liu-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-btrfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	fdmanana-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org,
	kzak-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	chuck.lever-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	mingming.cao-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: i_version vs iversion (Was: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Btrfs: add noi_version option to disable MS_I_VERSION)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:59:00 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150624235900.GC7943@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150624231750.GE14324-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 07:17:50PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:02:15PM +0200, David Sterba wrote:
> > 
> > This sounds similar to what Dave proposed, a per-inode I_VERSION
> > attribute that can be changed through chattr. Though the negated meaning
> > of the flag could be confusing, I had to reread the paragraph again.
> 
> Dave did not specify an I_VERSION attribute that would be stored on
> disk.  Instead he talked about a inode flag that would be set when the
> struct inode is created by the file system.

Right.

> This would allow file systems to permanently configure (on a per-inode
> basis) whether or not a particular inode would require a forced
> i_version update any time the inode's data or metadata is modified.  I
> suppose you could initialized the inode flag from an on-disk
> attribute, but that wasn't implied by Dave's proposal, at least as I
> understood it.

It enables filesystems to do this. If btrfs want to add an on-disk
flag to turn off I_VERSION on a per-inode basis, or imply it from
some other on-disk flag, then they are welcome to do so and the
above infrastructure change will support it.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24 23:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-17  7:54 [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Btrfs: add noi_version option to disable MS_I_VERSION Liu Bo
2015-06-17  7:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] Btrfs: improve fsync for nocow file Liu Bo
2015-06-17 15:58   ` David Sterba
2015-06-18  3:27     ` Liu Bo
2015-06-24 18:21       ` David Sterba
2015-06-25  2:24         ` Liu Bo
2015-06-25 16:10           ` David Sterba
2015-06-17 15:33 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Btrfs: add noi_version option to disable MS_I_VERSION David Sterba
2015-06-17 15:52   ` Liu Bo
2015-06-17 17:01     ` David Sterba
2015-06-18  2:46       ` Liu Bo
2015-06-18 14:38         ` i_version vs iversion (Was: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] Btrfs: add noi_version option to disable MS_I_VERSION) David Sterba
2015-06-19 11:44           ` Karel Zak
2015-06-19 11:44             ` Karel Zak
2015-06-22 20:42           ` Dave Chinner
2015-06-22 20:42             ` Dave Chinner
2015-06-24 17:28             ` David Sterba
2015-06-23 16:32           ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-24  8:23             ` Liu Bo
2015-06-24 18:02             ` David Sterba
2015-06-24 23:17               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-24 23:17                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-24 23:59                 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2015-06-24 23:59                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-06-25 18:46             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-06-25 18:46               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-06-25 22:12               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-26 13:32                 ` J. Bruce Fields

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