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From: Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 13:48:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150714134859.327426f6@canb.auug.org.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150713202818.23310729@lwn.net>

Hi Jon,

On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:28:18 -0600 Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net> wrote:
>
> In general, though, I think a lot of people see -next as -rc1 without the
> quality control; it's volatile and scary.  So it's not surprising that it
> doesn't get a lot of real-world testing.  And, as long as that's the case,
> there's going to be a lot of bugs that are never caught in -next.

The rule for next is "the code is as ready as can be to be merged by
Linus (or other upstream maintainer)", so, in a sense, it should no be
so scary.  However in actuality, that rule is not followed as well as I
would like (as evidenced by the amount of rebasing that still goes
on).  :-(

Sure we say "release early, release often", but *not* too early,
please.  The cycle should be something like "merge, test, (repeat),
release" - not "merge, release, test (repeat)" as it seems sometimes.

-- 
Cheers,
Stephen Rothwell                    sfr@canb.auug.org.au

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-14  3:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-11 16:12 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process Sasha Levin
2015-07-12 10:02 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-12 13:32   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-13  0:52     ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  3:32       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13  4:27       ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-13  5:10         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13 22:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-13 18:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-13 18:51           ` Mark Brown
2015-07-15 14:52             ` Olof Johansson
2015-07-15 15:59               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-15 16:03               ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 16:15                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15 16:40                   ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 19:34                     ` Josh Boyer
2015-07-15 21:21                     ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15 22:34                       ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 22:40                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-16  3:36                           ` Greg KH
2015-07-17  0:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16  9:06                   ` Zefan Li
2015-07-16 18:14                 ` Olof Johansson
2015-07-14  0:42           ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  1:02             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14  2:00               ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  2:28               ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-07-14  3:48                 ` Stephen Rothwell [this message]
2015-07-14  7:14                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 11:03                 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-14 13:29                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 20:17                     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-14 20:45                       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 22:12                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 22:36                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-01  8:44                   ` Jani Nikula
2015-09-01 20:52                     ` Greg KH
2015-09-01 21:00                       ` Sasha Levin
2015-09-01 21:08                         ` Jiri Kosina
2015-09-01 22:47                           ` Sasha Levin
2015-09-02 10:10                         ` Luis Henriques
2015-07-16  0:53                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16 11:50                   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14  3:42               ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-07-14  7:03               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 10:46               ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 13:57                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 15:25                   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 15:32                     ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 15:38                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 15:53                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 16:02                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 19:30                             ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 19:38                               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-15  1:49                               ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15  2:09                                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  2:28                                   ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15 10:13                                     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-15 23:24                                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-16  1:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16  1:43                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-16  1:25                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16  9:19                                           ` James Bottomley
2015-07-16 12:33                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-08-03  8:32                                             ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-14 15:56                       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 19:01                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 19:18                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 19:31                             ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  9:26                               ` Jan Kara
2015-07-16 12:53                           ` Mark Brown
2015-07-13  9:22       ` Jan Kara
2015-07-13 20:51       ` Greg KH
2015-07-14  0:51         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  2:46         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15 19:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-15 20:14           ` James Bottomley
2015-07-12 15:01 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-13 10:15 ` Zefan Li
2015-07-13 16:12   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 10:08     ` Zefan Li
2015-07-14 14:00       ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  0:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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