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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
Cc: Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	"ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
	<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 21:45:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150714204519.GI11162@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1436905046.2445.54.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

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On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:17:26PM +0300, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 09:29 -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:

> > Mark Brown mentioned the down side. Depending on what the bug is,
> > especially if it breaks Linus's build, or causes some other major
> > breakage, to wait in next means that Linus's tree (that everyone is
> > based on) will be broken for that long too. Which could stop other
> > types of testing of Linus's tree.

> If you followed process in the first place, how could you possibly break
> the build except for some corner case configuration which can wait for
> the fix?  linux-next and 0day pick up this kind of breakage fairly
> instantly.  If you wait before sending a pull, you'll see the reports in
> time to correct.

The specific case I'm thinking of had a dependency on some other changes
in -next that weren't targeted for Linus' tree and which triggered only
non-x86 architectures (but fairly obviously on some of them IIRC,
probably something like all*config).  With the other changes in -next
everything was fine, and with x86 everything was fine.  Most of the
testing on -next is on the integrated tree, though 0day probably should
have triggered.  

That interaction with other bits of -next definitely feels like a weak
spot for me when I'm sending changes to Linus.

> > I've been trying to get time to test against -next before the merge
> > window opens, because my tests usually discover these there. But I
> > don't always have time to do so.

> Well, the more, the merrier.  If you have a suite of tests, just package
> it up and send it off to Fengguang if you don't have time to run it.

Or get them into kselftest!

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-14 20:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-11 16:12 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Issues with stable process Sasha Levin
2015-07-12 10:02 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-12 13:32   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-13  0:52     ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13  3:32       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-13  4:27       ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-13  5:10         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-13 22:55           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-13 18:21         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-13 18:51           ` Mark Brown
2015-07-15 14:52             ` Olof Johansson
2015-07-15 15:59               ` Guenter Roeck
2015-07-15 16:03               ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 16:15                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15 16:40                   ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 19:34                     ` Josh Boyer
2015-07-15 21:21                     ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15 22:34                       ` Greg KH
2015-07-15 22:40                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-16  3:36                           ` Greg KH
2015-07-17  0:52                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16  9:06                   ` Zefan Li
2015-07-16 18:14                 ` Olof Johansson
2015-07-14  0:42           ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  1:02             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14  2:00               ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  2:28               ` Jonathan Corbet
2015-07-14  3:48                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-07-14  7:14                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 11:03                 ` James Bottomley
2015-07-14 13:29                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 20:17                     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-14 20:45                       ` Mark Brown [this message]
2015-07-14 22:12                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 22:36                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-01  8:44                   ` Jani Nikula
2015-09-01 20:52                     ` Greg KH
2015-09-01 21:00                       ` Sasha Levin
2015-09-01 21:08                         ` Jiri Kosina
2015-09-01 22:47                           ` Sasha Levin
2015-09-02 10:10                         ` Luis Henriques
2015-07-16  0:53                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16 11:50                   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14  3:42               ` Stephen Rothwell
2015-07-14  7:03               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 10:46               ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 13:57                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 15:25                   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 15:32                     ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 15:38                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 15:53                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 16:02                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-14 19:30                             ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 19:38                               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-15  1:49                               ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15  2:09                                 ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  2:28                                   ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15 10:13                                     ` James Bottomley
2015-07-15 23:24                                       ` NeilBrown
2015-07-16  1:05                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-16  1:43                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-16  1:25                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-16  9:19                                           ` James Bottomley
2015-07-16 12:33                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2015-08-03  8:32                                             ` Fengguang Wu
2015-07-14 15:56                       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 19:01                         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 19:18                           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-14 19:31                             ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  9:26                               ` Jan Kara
2015-07-16 12:53                           ` Mark Brown
2015-07-13  9:22       ` Jan Kara
2015-07-13 20:51       ` Greg KH
2015-07-14  0:51         ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14  2:46         ` NeilBrown
2015-07-15 19:41         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-15 20:14           ` James Bottomley
2015-07-12 15:01 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-07-13 10:15 ` Zefan Li
2015-07-13 16:12   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-14 10:08     ` Zefan Li
2015-07-14 14:00       ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-15  0:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman

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