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From: Steve Bergman <steve@netplus.net>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@e-mind.com>,
	brent verner <damonbrent@earthlink.net>,
	"Garst R. Reese" <reese@isn.net>,
	Kalle Andersson <kalle.andersson@mbox303.swipnet.se>,
	Zlatko Calusic <Zlatko.Calusic@CARNet.hr>,
	Ben McCann <bmccann@indusriver.com>,
	bredelin@ucsd.edu, linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	"Stephen C. Tweedie" <sct@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch  vs pre5 vs arcavm13
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1999 18:28:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3697F442.222A2301@netplus.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3697DA94.F0F32F70@netplus.net

Steve Bergman wrote:

I ran the "image test" (loading 116 jpg images simultaneously) on the latest
patches and got these results in 128MB (I end up with ~ 160MB in swap):

pre6+zlatko's_patch	2:35
pre6			2:27
pre5			1:58
arcavm13		9:13

Arcavm13 (the star performer in the low memory test) is having problems here. 
Pre5, which I performed about the same as the others in the my low memory test
and which I ignored in my even lower 12MB test looks quite good here.  Based on
it's good performance here, I decided to run the 12MB kernel compile test on it,
as well.  (See what happens when I try to cut corners...)

In 12MB:

pre6+zlatko_patch       22:14   383206  204482  57823
pre6                    20:54   352934  191210  48678
pre5                    19:35	334680	183732	93427 
arcavm13                19:45   344452  180243  38977

Pre5 is looking good.  Based upon the tests that I have run, anyway.  I agree
with the person who expressed a distrust of benchmarks.  But numbers are
necessary for tuning.  "Feels faster" is just not a very trustworthy thing.  So
I also agree with one of the responses:

"Try out your favorite apps and time some portion of them and post any
interesting numbers." (paraphrased)

Benchmarks are not the problem.  The problem is the lack of comprehensiveness,
or the tunnel-vision if you prefer, that benchmarks can lead one into.  Find a
way to quantify the things that you do everyday and post the results.

-Thanks
-Steve
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Thread overview: 243+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <199812290146.BAA12687@terrorserver.swansea.linux.org.uk>
1998-12-31 18:00 ` 2.2.0 Bug summary Andrea Arcangeli
1998-12-31 18:34   ` [patch] new-vm improvement [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01  0:16     ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-01 17:16       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 16:44     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 20:02       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-01 23:46         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02  6:55           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-02  8:33             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02 14:48             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-02 15:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-02 18:10               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-02 20:52               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-03  2:59                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 18:08                   ` [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 20:56                     ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-04 21:10                       ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-04 22:04                       ` Alan Cox
1999-01-04 21:55                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-04 22:51                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05  0:32                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05  0:52                               ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05  3:02                               ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 11:49                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 13:23                                   ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 15:42                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 16:16                                       ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-05 15:35                               ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-06 14:48                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-06 23:31                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07  3:32                                     ` Results: 2.2.0-pre5 vs arcavm10 vs arcavm9 vs arcavm7 Steve Bergman
1999-01-07 12:02                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 20:27                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 23:56                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 17:35                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 18:44                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:33                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 21:10                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:38                                           ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 19:40                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  6:28                                           ` 2.2.0-pre[56] swap performance poor with > 1 thrashing task Dax Kelson
1999-01-09  6:32                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-09  6:44                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 18:58                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11  9:21                                                 ` Buffer handling (setting PG_referenced on access) Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-11 17:44                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 20:14                                                     ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-16 17:35                                                 ` 2.2.0-pre[56] swap performance poor with > 1 thrashing task Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  7:48                                             ` Benjamin Redelings I
1999-01-09  6:53                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 22:39                                       ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Steve Bergman
1999-01-10  0:28                                         ` Steve Bergman [this message]
1999-01-10  5:35                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 18:33                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 18:43                                             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 19:08                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 19:23                                                 ` Vladimir Dergachev
1999-01-10 20:09                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:29                                                 ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 21:41                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 23:33                                                     ` testing/pre-7 and do_poll() Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  6:02                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11  6:26                                                         ` Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  6:46                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11  6:59                                                             ` Chip Salzenberg
1999-01-11  7:02                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 22:08                                                                 ` Shawn Leas
1999-01-11 22:13                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12  0:25                                                                     ` estafford
1999-01-12  8:25                                                                       ` Shawn Leas
1999-01-12  7:06                                                                     ` Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-11 20:20                                                       ` Adam Heath
1999-01-11 16:57                                                   ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Steve Bergman
1999-01-11 19:36                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11 23:03                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11 23:38                                                         ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-12  2:02                                                         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-12  3:21                                                           ` Results: Zlatko's new vm patch Steve Bergman
1999-01-12  5:33                                                             ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12 14:49                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-12 16:58                                                               ` Joseph Anthony
1999-01-12 18:16                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 20:15                                                                   ` Michael K Vance
1999-01-13 19:25                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 18:24                                                               ` Michael K Vance
1999-01-13  0:01                                                               ` Where to find pre7. Was: " Robert Thorncrantz
1999-01-13 20:47                                                             ` [patch] arca-vm-19 [Re: Results: Zlatko's new vm patch] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-14 12:30                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-15 23:56                                                                 ` [patch] NEW: arca-vm-21, swapout via shrink_mmap using PG_dirty Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-16 16:49                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-17 23:47                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18  5:11                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-18  7:28                                                                         ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-18 10:00                                                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18  9:15                                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-18 17:49                                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-18 19:22                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:40                                               ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 20:50                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 21:01                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:51                                                     ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-10 22:50                                                       ` Results: arcavm15, et. al Steve Bergman
1999-01-11  0:20                                                         ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-11 13:21                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-11  3:47                                         ` Results: pre6 vs pre6+zlatko's_patch vs pre5 vs arcavm13 Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-06 23:35                                   ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07  4:30                                     ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-07 17:56                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 18:18                                         ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-07 19:19                                           ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] Alan Cox
1999-01-07 18:55                                         ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-07 22:57                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08  1:16                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08 10:45                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-08 19:06                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09  9:43                                           ` MM deadlock [was: Re: arca-vm-8...] Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-09 18:00                                             ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 18:41                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:41                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 21:47                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-09 21:50                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 11:56                                                 ` Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-10 17:59                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 22:33                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 16:59                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 18:13                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 18:35                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 19:45                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-10 19:03                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-10 21:39                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 19:09                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 20:33                                                         ` Alan Cox
1999-01-10 20:07                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-10 22:18                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-10 22:49                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-11  6:04                                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-12 16:06                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-12 17:54                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-12 18:44                                                             ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-12 19:05                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 17:48                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 18:07                                                                   ` 2.2.0-pre6 ain't nice =( Kalle Andersson
1999-01-13 19:05                                                                   ` MM deadlock [was: Re: arca-vm-8...] Alan Cox
1999-01-13 19:23                                                                     ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-13 19:26                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-14 11:02                                                                       ` Mike Jagdis
1999-01-14 22:38                                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-15  7:40                                                                       ` Agus Budy Wuysang
1999-01-14 10:48                                                                   ` Mike Jagdis
1999-01-12 21:46                                                               ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-13  6:52                                                                 ` Zlatko Calusic
1999-01-13 13:45                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 13:58                                                                   ` Chris Evans
1999-01-13 15:07                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:11                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 14:59                                                                   ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-13 18:10                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:14                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-14 14:53                                                                         ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-21 16:50                                                                           ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-21 19:53                                                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-22 13:55                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-22 19:45                                                                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-23 23:20                                                                             ` Alan Cox
1999-01-24  0:19                                                                               ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-24 18:33                                                                                 ` Gregory Maxwell
1999-01-25  0:21                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25  1:28                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  3:35                                                                                       ` pmonta
1999-01-25  4:17                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-24 20:33                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  0:27                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25  1:38                                                                                     ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  1:04                                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25  2:10                                                                                         ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25  3:16                                                                                           ` Garst R. Reese
1999-01-25 10:49                                                                                             ` Alan Cox
1999-01-25 14:06                                                                                           ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-25 21:59                                                                                       ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 11:45                                                                                         ` Thomas Sailer
1999-01-26 20:48                                                                                           ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 21:24                                                                                             ` Thomas Sailer
1999-01-27  0:25                                                                                             ` David Lang
1999-01-27 16:05                                                                                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-27 20:11                                                                                               ` Gerard Roudier
1999-01-26 13:06                                                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26 14:28                                                                                           ` Alan Cox
1999-01-26 14:15                                                                                             ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-26 14:36                                                                                               ` yodaiken
1999-01-26 15:21                                                                                                 ` MOLNAR Ingo
1999-01-27 10:31                                                                                                   ` yodaiken
1999-01-26 15:46                                                                                                 ` Alan Cox
1999-01-26 16:45                                                                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-30  7:01                                                                                                     ` yodaiken
1999-02-01 13:07                                                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26 16:37                                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-27 11:35                                                                                               ` Jakub Jelinek
1999-01-26 14:21                                                                                             ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-25 16:25                                                                                 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 16:52                                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25 18:27                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 18:43                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 18:49                                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 18:43                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-25 19:15                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-26  1:57                                                                                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-26 18:37                                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-27 12:13                                                                                     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-22 16:29                                                                           ` Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-25 13:14                                                                             ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-25 17:56                                                                               ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-25 19:10                                                                               ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-25 20:49                                                                                 ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-25 20:56                                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-26 12:23                                                                                     ` Rik van Riel
1999-01-26 15:44                                                                                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-27 14:52                                                                                   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-28 19:12                                                                                     ` Dr. Werner Fink
1999-01-13 17:55                                                                   ` [PATCH] " Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 18:52                                                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-13 22:10                                                                       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-13 22:30                                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 11:20                                                       ` Pavel Machek
1999-01-11 17:35                                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-11 14:11                                                     ` Savochkin Andrey Vladimirovich
1999-01-11 17:55                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-11 18:37                                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-08  2:56                                         ` arca-vm-8 [Re: [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm , improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]]] Eric W. Biederman
1999-01-09  0:50                                         ` David S. Miller
1999-01-09  2:13                                         ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-09  2:34                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-09  9:30                                             ` Stephen C. Tweedie
1999-01-09 12:11                                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 14:11                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 18:19                                       ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-07 20:35                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-07 23:51                                           ` Linus Torvalds
1999-01-08  0:04                                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 22:43                         ` [patch] arca-vm-6, killed kswapd [Re: [patch] new-vm improvement , [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary]] Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-04 22:29                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
1999-01-05 13:33                   ` [patch] new-vm improvement [Re: 2.2.0 Bug summary] Ben McCann
1999-01-02 20:04             ` Steve Bergman
1999-01-02  3:03         ` Andrea Arcangeli

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