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From: Shashi Mallela <shashi.mallela@linaro.org>
To: Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@huawei.com>
Cc: "peter.maydell@linaro.org" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"drjones@redhat.com" <drjones@redhat.com>,
	"Cota@braap.org" <Cota@braap.org>,
	"richard.henderson@linaro.org" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"qemu-arm@nongnu.org" <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>,
	"Chengen (William, FixNet)" <chengen@huawei.com>,
	yuzenghui <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	"Wanghaibin (D)" <wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com>,
	"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: GICv3 for MTTCG
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 12:45:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <41839E15-50DF-4EFB-AF54-6CDB089859BD@getmailspring.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f8496377da246c38452d95bbbfc0ca7@huawei.com>

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Hi Andrey,

To clarify, the patch series
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2021-04/msg00944.html
> "GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation"
>

is applicable for virt machine 6.1 onwards,i.e ITS TCG functionality is not available for version 6.0 that is being tried
here.

Thanks
Shashi

On May 13 2021, at 12:35 pm, Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@huawei.com> wrote:
> Dear colleagues,
>
> Thank you all very much for your responses. Let me reply with one message.
> I configured QEMU for AARCH64 guest:
> $ ./configure --target-list=aarch64-softmmu
>
> When I start QEMU with GICv3 on an x86 host:
> qemu-system-aarch64 -machine virt-6.0,accel=tcg,gic-version=3
>
> QEMU reports this error from hw/pci/msix.c:
> error_setg(errp, "MSI-X is not supported by interrupt controller");
>
> Probably, the variable 'msi_nonbroken' would be initialized in
> hw/intc/arm_gicv3_its_common.c:
> gicv3_its_init_mmio(..)
>
> I guess that it works with KVM acceleration only rather than with TCG.
> The error persists after applying the series:
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-arm/2021-04/msg00944.html
> "GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation"
> (special thanks for referring me to that)
>
> Please, make me clear and advise ideas how that error can be fixed?
> Should the MSI-X support be implemented with GICv3 extra?
>
> When successful, I would like to test QEMU for a maximum number of cores
> to get the best MTTCG performance.
> Probably, we will get just some percentage of performance enhancement
> with the BQL series applied, won't we? I will test it as well.
>
> Best regards,
> Andrey Shinkevich
>
>
> On 5/12/21 6:43 PM, Alex Bennée wrote:
> >
> > Andrey Shinkevich <andrey.shinkevich@huawei.com> writes:
> >
> >> Dear colleagues,
> >>
> >> I am looking for ways to accelerate the MTTCG for ARM guest on x86-64 host.
> >> The maximum number of CPUs for MTTCG that uses GICv2 is limited by 8:
> >>
> >> include/hw/intc/arm_gic_common.h:#define GIC_NCPU 8
> >>
> >> The version 3 of the Generic Interrupt Controller (GICv3) is not
> >> supported in QEMU for some reason unknown to me. It would allow to
> >> increase the limit of CPUs and accelerate the MTTCG performance on a
> >> multiple core hypervisor.
> >
> > It is supported, you just need to select it.
> >
> >> I have got an idea to implement the Interrupt Translation Service (ITS)
> >> for using by MTTCG for ARM architecture.
> >
> > There is some work to support ITS under TCG already posted:
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH v3 0/8] GICv3 LPI and ITS feature implementation
> > Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 19:41:53 -0400
> > Message-Id: <20210429234201.125565-1-shashi.mallela@linaro.org>
> >
> > please do review and test.
> >
> >> Do you find that idea useful and feasible?
> >> If yes, how much time do you estimate for such a project to complete by
> >> one developer?
> >> If no, what are reasons for not implementing GICv3 for MTTCG in QEMU?
> >
> > As far as MTTCG performance is concerned there is a degree of
> > diminishing returns to be expected as the synchronisation cost between
> > threads will eventually outweigh the gains of additional threads.
> >
> > There are a number of parts that could improve this performance. The
> > first would be picking up the BQL reduction series from your FutureWei
> > colleges who worked on the problem when they were Linaro assignees:
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH v2 0/7] accel/tcg: remove implied BQL from cpu_handle_interrupt/exception path
> > Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:28:49 -0400
> > Message-Id: <20200819182856.4893-1-robert.foley@linaro.org>
> >
> > There was also a longer series moving towards per-CPU locks:
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH v10 00/73] per-CPU locks
> > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2020 17:01:18 -0400
> > Message-Id: <20200617210231.4393-1-robert.foley@linaro.org>
> >
> > I believe the initial measurements showed that the BQL cost started to
> > edge up with GIC interactions. We did discuss approaches for this and I
> > think one idea was use non-BQL locking for the GIC. You would need to
> > revert:
> >
> > Subject: [PATCH-for-5.2] exec: Remove MemoryRegion::global_locking field
> > Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 17:07:26 +0200
> > Message-Id: <20200806150726.962-1-philmd@redhat.com>
> >
> > and then implement a more fine tuned locking in the GIC emulation
> > itself. However I think the BQL and per-CPU locks are lower hanging
> > fruit to tackle first.
> >
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Andrey Shinkevich
> >
> >
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-11 17:51 GICv3 for MTTCG Andrey Shinkevich
2021-05-11 19:53 ` Richard Henderson
2021-05-12  1:44 ` Zenghui Yu
2021-05-12 15:26 ` Alex Bennée
2021-05-13 16:35   ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-05-13 16:45     ` Shashi Mallela [this message]
2021-05-13 18:29       ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-06-17 16:43       ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-06-17 17:44         ` shashi.mallela
2021-06-17 18:55           ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-06-18 13:15         ` Alex Bennée
2021-06-18 15:18           ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-05-13 17:19     ` Alex Bennée
2021-05-13 18:33       ` Andrey Shinkevich
2021-05-14  5:21       ` Andrey Shinkevich

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