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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	andrey@xdel.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:44:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558446FC.6080301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150619183226-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>



On 19/06/2015 18:33, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 06:26:27PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 19/06/2015 18:20, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> We could, but I/O is just an example.  It can be I/O, a network ring,
>>>> whatever.  We cannot audit all address_space_map uses.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No need to audit them all: defer device_add using an hva range until
>>> address_space_unmap drops using hvas in range drops reference count to
>>> 0.
>>
>> That could be forever.  You certainly don't want to lockup the monitor
>> forever just because a device model isn't too friendly to memory hot-unplug.
> 
> We can defer the addition, no need to lockup the monitor.

Patches are welcome.

>> That's why you need to audit them (also, it's perfectly in the device
>> model's right to use address_space_unmap this way: it's the guest that's
>> buggy and leaves a dangling reference to a region before unplugging it).
> 
> Then maybe it's not too bad that the guest will crash because the memory
> was unmapped.

That's a matter of taste.  I strongly prefer using 12K extra memory per
VCPU to a guest crash.

Paolo
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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	andrey@xdel.ru
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions
Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:44:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558446FC.6080301@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150619183226-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>



On 19/06/2015 18:33, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 06:26:27PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 19/06/2015 18:20, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>> We could, but I/O is just an example.  It can be I/O, a network ring,
>>>> whatever.  We cannot audit all address_space_map uses.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No need to audit them all: defer device_add using an hva range until
>>> address_space_unmap drops using hvas in range drops reference count to
>>> 0.
>>
>> That could be forever.  You certainly don't want to lockup the monitor
>> forever just because a device model isn't too friendly to memory hot-unplug.
> 
> We can defer the addition, no need to lockup the monitor.

Patches are welcome.

>> That's why you need to audit them (also, it's perfectly in the device
>> model's right to use address_space_unmap this way: it's the guest that's
>> buggy and leaves a dangling reference to a region before unplugging it).
> 
> Then maybe it's not too bad that the guest will crash because the memory
> was unmapped.

That's a matter of taste.  I strongly prefer using 12K extra memory per
VCPU to a guest crash.

Paolo
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-19 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-16 16:33 [PATCH 0/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] vhost: use binary search instead of linear in find_region() Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 21:07   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-16 21:13     ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] vhost: extend memory regions allocation to vmalloc Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 3/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 21:14   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-16 22:00     ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17  6:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17  7:28         ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17  7:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17  8:54             ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 10:11               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 10:37                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 10:46                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 11:48                     ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 11:51                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 12:23                         ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 13:13                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 13:20                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 14:32                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 15:12                                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 15:38                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:09                                     ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 16:30                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:31                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 16:34                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:38                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 16:41                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 16:47                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-17 17:32                                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17 19:11                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17 17:30                                         ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-18  9:12                                         ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-18  9:50                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-18 10:03                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-18 11:39                                             ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-18 11:41                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-18 11:50                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-18 13:19                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-18 13:46                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-18 14:47                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-18 15:54                                                         ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-18 16:02                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19  7:56                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19  7:57                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19  8:05                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19  8:52                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 10:14                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 10:44                                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 13:34                                                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 13:34                                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 15:19                                                                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 15:19                                                                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 16:20                                                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:20                                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:26                                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 16:26                                                                               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 16:33                                                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:33                                                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:44                                                                                 ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2015-06-19 16:44                                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-22  7:10                                                                                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-22  7:10                                                                                   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-22  9:45                                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-22  9:45                                                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 16:45                                                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:45                                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-19 16:50                                                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-19 16:50                                                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-18 12:02                                                 ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17  8:53         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] vhost: add per VQ memory region caching Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 16:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] vhost: translate_desc: optimization for desc.len < region size Igor Mammedov
2015-06-16 21:11   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-16 21:16 ` [PATCH 0/5] vhost: support upto 509 memory regions Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-16 22:19   ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17  6:31     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-06-17  7:33       ` Igor Mammedov
2015-06-17  7:40         ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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