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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 36/36] thp: update documentation
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:07:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558832A4.6060609@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150622131827.GF7934@node.dhcp.inet.fi>

On 06/22/2015 03:18 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 02:30:15PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 06/03/2015 07:06 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>> The patch updates Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt to reflect changes in
>>> THP design.
>>
>> One thing I'm missing is info about the deferred splitting.
>
> Okay, I'll add this.

Thanks.

>>> Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>   Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt | 124 +++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>>   1 file changed, 69 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> index 6b31cfbe2a9a..2352b12cae93 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> @@ -35,10 +35,10 @@ miss is going to run faster.
>>>
>>>   == Design ==
>>>
>>> -- "graceful fallback": mm components which don't have transparent
>>> -  hugepage knowledge fall back to breaking a transparent hugepage and
>>> -  working on the regular pages and their respective regular pmd/pte
>>> -  mappings
>>> +- "graceful fallback": mm components which don't have transparent hugepage
>>> +  knowledge fall back to breaking huge pmd mapping into table of ptes and,
>>> +  if nesessary, split a transparent hugepage. Therefore these components
>>
>>          necessary
>>> +
>>> +split_huge_page uses migration entries to stabilize page->_count and
>>> +page->_mapcount.
>>
>> Hm, what if there's some physical memory scanner taking page->_count pins? I
>> think compaction shouldn't be an issue, but maybe some others?
>
> The only legitimate way scanner can get reference to a page is
> get_page_unless_zero(), right?

I think so.

> All tail pages has zero ->_count until atomic_add() in
> __split_huge_page_tail() -- get_page_unless_zero() will fail.
> After the atomic_add() we don't care about ->_count value.
> We already known how many references with should uncharge from
> head page.
>
> For head page get_page_unless_zero() will succeed and we don't
> mind. It's clear where reference should go after split: it will
> stay on head page.

I guess that works, but it's rather non-obvious thus worth documenting 
somewhere.
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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	Naoya Horiguchi <n-horiguchi@ah.jp.nec.com>,
	Steve Capper <steve.capper@linaro.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Jerome Marchand <jmarchan@redhat.com>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv6 36/36] thp: update documentation
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:07:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558832A4.6060609@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150622131827.GF7934@node.dhcp.inet.fi>

On 06/22/2015 03:18 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 02:30:15PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 06/03/2015 07:06 PM, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
>>> The patch updates Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt to reflect changes in
>>> THP design.
>>
>> One thing I'm missing is info about the deferred splitting.
>
> Okay, I'll add this.

Thanks.

>>> Signed-off-by: Kirill A. Shutemov <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
>>> ---
>>>   Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt | 124 +++++++++++++++++++++++------------------
>>>   1 file changed, 69 insertions(+), 55 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> index 6b31cfbe2a9a..2352b12cae93 100644
>>> --- a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> +++ b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
>>> @@ -35,10 +35,10 @@ miss is going to run faster.
>>>
>>>   == Design ==
>>>
>>> -- "graceful fallback": mm components which don't have transparent
>>> -  hugepage knowledge fall back to breaking a transparent hugepage and
>>> -  working on the regular pages and their respective regular pmd/pte
>>> -  mappings
>>> +- "graceful fallback": mm components which don't have transparent hugepage
>>> +  knowledge fall back to breaking huge pmd mapping into table of ptes and,
>>> +  if nesessary, split a transparent hugepage. Therefore these components
>>
>>          necessary
>>> +
>>> +split_huge_page uses migration entries to stabilize page->_count and
>>> +page->_mapcount.
>>
>> Hm, what if there's some physical memory scanner taking page->_count pins? I
>> think compaction shouldn't be an issue, but maybe some others?
>
> The only legitimate way scanner can get reference to a page is
> get_page_unless_zero(), right?

I think so.

> All tail pages has zero ->_count until atomic_add() in
> __split_huge_page_tail() -- get_page_unless_zero() will fail.
> After the atomic_add() we don't care about ->_count value.
> We already known how many references with should uncharge from
> head page.
>
> For head page get_page_unless_zero() will succeed and we don't
> mind. It's clear where reference should go after split: it will
> stay on head page.

I guess that works, but it's rather non-obvious thus worth documenting 
somewhere.

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Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-03 17:05 [PATCHv6 00/36] THP refcounting redesign Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 01/36] mm, proc: adjust PSS calculation Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-09 12:29   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-09 12:29     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 10:02     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 10:02       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 02/36] rmap: add argument to charge compound page Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 03/36] memcg: adjust to support new THP refcounting Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 04/36] mm, thp: adjust conditions when we can reuse the page on WP fault Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 05/36] mm: adjust FOLL_SPLIT for new refcounting Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 06/36] mm: handle PTE-mapped tail pages in gerneric fast gup implementaiton Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 07/36] thp, mlock: do not allow huge pages in mlocked area Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 08/36] khugepaged: ignore pmd tables with THP mapped with ptes Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 09/36] thp: rename split_huge_page_pmd() to split_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 10/36] mm, vmstats: new THP splitting event Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 11/36] mm: temporally mark THP broken Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 12/36] thp: drop all split_huge_page()-related code Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 13/36] mm: drop tail page refcounting Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-09 13:59   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-09 13:59     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 14/36] futex, thp: remove special case for THP in get_futex_key Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 15/36] ksm: prepare to new THP semantics Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 16/36] mm, thp: remove compound_lock Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 17/36] arm64, thp: remove infrastructure for handling splitting PMDs Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 18/36] arm, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 19/36] mips, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 20/36] powerpc, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 21/36] s390, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 22/36] sparc, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 23/36] tile, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 24/36] x86, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 25/36] mm, " Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 26/36] mm: rework mapcount accounting to enable 4k mapping of THPs Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-10 13:47   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-10 13:47     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 10:22     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 10:22       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 27/36] mm: differentiate page_mapped() from page_mapcount() for compound pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-09 10:58   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-09 10:58     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-10 14:34   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-10 14:34     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-03 17:05 ` [PATCHv6 28/36] mm, numa: skip PTE-mapped THP on numa fault Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:05   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 29/36] thp: implement split_huge_pmd() Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-11  9:49   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-11  9:49     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 11:14     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 11:14       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 16:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 16:01         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 30/36] thp: add option to setup migration entiries during PMD split Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 31/36] thp, mm: split_huge_page(): caller need to lock page Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 32/36] thp: reintroduce split_huge_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-10 15:44   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-10 15:44     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 11:28     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 11:28       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 33/36] migrate_pages: try to split pages on qeueuing Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-11  9:27   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-11  9:27     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 11:35     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 11:35       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 34/36] thp: introduce deferred_split_huge_page() Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 35/36] mm: re-enable THP Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06 ` [PATCHv6 36/36] thp: update documentation Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-03 17:06   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-11 12:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-11 12:30     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-22 13:18     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 13:18       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 16:07       ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-06-22 16:07         ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-06-16 13:17 ` [PATCHv6 00/36] THP refcounting redesign Jerome Marchand
2015-06-22 13:21   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 13:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 13:32     ` Jerome Marchand
2015-06-22 13:39       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2015-06-22 13:39         ` Kirill A. Shutemov

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