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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>,
	Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hp.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Allow vCPUs kick-ahead
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 10:51:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A7C506.9030309@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150716054626.GV19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 07/16/2015 01:46 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:01:02PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 07/15/2015 05:39 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:13:35PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> Frequent CPU halting (vmexit) and CPU kicking (vmenter) lengthens
>>>> critical section and block forward progress.  This patch implements
>>>> a kick-ahead mechanism where the unlocker will kick the queue head
>>>> vCPUs as well as up to four additional vCPUs next to the queue head
>>>> if they were halted.  The kickings are done after exiting the critical
>>>> section to improve parallelism.
>>>>
>>>> The amount of kick-ahead allowed depends on the number of vCPUs
>>>> in the VM guest.  This patch, by itself, won't do much as most of
>>>> the kickings are currently done at lock time. Coupled with the next
>>>> patch that defers lock time kicking to unlock time, it should improve
>>>> overall system performance in a busy overcommitted guest.
>>>>
>>>> Linux kernel builds were run in KVM guest on an 8-socket, 4
>>>> cores/socket Westmere-EX system and a 4-socket, 8 cores/socket
>>>> Haswell-EX system. Both systems are configured to have 32 physical
>>>> CPUs. The kernel build times before and after the patch were:
>>>>
>>>> 		    Westmere			Haswell
>>>>    Patch		32 vCPUs    48 vCPUs	32 vCPUs    48 vCPUs
>>>>    -----		--------    --------    --------    --------
>>>>    Before patch	 3m25.0s    10m34.1s	 2m02.0s    15m35.9s
>>>>    After patch    3m27.4s    10m32.0s	 2m00.8s    14m52.5s
>>>>
>>>> There wasn't too much difference before and after the patch.
>>> That means either the patch isn't worth it, or as you seem to imply its
>>> in the wrong place in this series.
>> It needs to be coupled with the next patch to be effective as most of the
>> kicking are happening at the lock side, instead of at the unlock side. If
>> you look at the sample pvqspinlock stats in patch 3:
>>
>> lock_kick_count=755354
>> unlock_kick_count=87
>>
>> The number of unlock kicks is negligible compared with the lock kicks. Patch
>> 5 does have a dependency on patch 4 unless we make it unconditionally defers
>> kicking to the unlock call which was what I had done in the v1 patch. The
>> reason why I change this in v2 is because I found a very slight performance
>> degradation in doing so.
> This way we cannot see the gains of the proposed complexity. So put it
> in a place where you can.

OK, I will see what I can do to make the performance change more visible 
on a patch-by-patch basis.

>>> You also do not offer any support for any of the magic numbers..
>> I chose 4 for PV_KICK_AHEAD_MAX as I didn't see much performance difference
>> when I did a kick-ahead of 5. Also, it may be too unfair to the vCPU that
>> was doing the kicking if the number is too big. Another magic number is
>> pv_kick_ahead number. This one is kind of arbitrary. Right now I do a log2,
>> but it can be divided by 4 (rshift 2) as well.
> So what was the difference between 1-2-3-4 ? I would be thinking one
> extra kick is the biggest help, no?
I was seeing diminishing returns with more kicks. I can add a table on 
that in the next patch.

Cheers,
Longman



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-16 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-15  2:13 [PATCH 0/6 v2] locking/qspinlock: Enhance pvqspinlock performance Waiman Long
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Unconditional PV kick with _Q_SLOW_VAL Waiman Long
2015-07-15  9:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16  0:18     ` Waiman Long
2015-07-16  5:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16 14:07         ` Waiman Long
2015-07-16 15:04           ` Waiman Long
2015-07-16 15:10             ` Will Deacon
2015-08-03 16:59               ` [tip:locking/core] locking/Documentation: Clarify failed cmpxchg( ) memory ordering semantics tip-bot for Will Deacon
2015-08-03 17:36                 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Add pending bit support Waiman Long
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Collect slowpath lock statistics Waiman Long
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Allow vCPUs kick-ahead Waiman Long
2015-07-15  9:39   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16  2:01     ` Waiman Long
2015-07-16  5:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16 14:51         ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Opportunistically defer kicking to unlock time Waiman Long
2015-07-15  6:14   ` Raghavendra K T
2015-07-15 10:03   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16  2:18     ` Waiman Long
2015-07-16  5:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-15  2:13 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] locking/pvqspinlock: Queue node adaptive spinning Waiman Long
2015-07-15 10:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-16  2:13     ` Waiman Long

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