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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, andrew@lunn.ch,
	linux@roeck-us.net, jiri@resnulli.us, sfeldma@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/5] net: L2 only interfaces
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 16:24:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DCF934.8000906@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150825232021.GA8482@Alexeis-MacBook-Pro-2.local>

On 25/08/15 16:20, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 03:50:10PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> This patch series implements a L2 only interface concept which basically denies
>> any kind of IP address configuration on these interfaces, but still allows them
>> to be used as configuration end-points to keep using ethtool and friends.
>>
>> A cleaner approach might be to finally come up with the concept of net_port
>> which a net_device would be a superset of, but this still raises tons of
>> questions as to whether we should be modifying userland tools to be able to
>> configure/query these interfaces. During all the switch talks/discussions last
>> year, it seemed to me like th L2-only interface is closest we have to a
>> "network port".
>>
>> Comments, flames, flying tomatoes welcome!
>>
>> Florian Fainelli (5):
>>   net: add IFF_L2_ONLY flag
>>   net: ipv4: Skip in_dev initialization for IFF_L2_ONLY interfaces
>>   net: ipv6: Skip in6_dev initialization for IFF_L2_ONLY interfaces
> 
> interesting idea! Do you know how kernel/iproute2 will react to lack of in_dev?

Surprisingly pretty good so far, have not found a way to make the kernel
crash ;)

> No crashes I'm assuming, but what kind of errors are thrown?

If you try to assign an IP address to such an interface, you get:

# ifconfig gphy 192.168.1.1
ifconfig: SIOCSIFADDR: No buffer space available

> imo great first step to have lightweight netdevs. +1 for 'net_port' in the future.

Thanks!
-- 
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-25 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-25 22:50 [PATCH RFC 0/5] net: L2 only interfaces Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 1/5] net: add IFF_L2_ONLY flag Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 2/5] net: ipv4: Skip in_dev initialization for IFF_L2_ONLY interfaces Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 3/5] net: ipv6: Skip in6_dev " Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 4/5] net: dsa: Flag slave network devices with IFF_L2_ONLY Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC 5/5] net: dsa: bcm_sf2: Allow disabling tagging protocol Florian Fainelli
2015-08-26  0:09   ` David Miller
2015-08-25 23:20 ` [PATCH RFC 0/5] net: L2 only interfaces Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-25 23:24   ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2015-08-25 23:33   ` David Ahern
2015-09-01 17:07   ` Vivien Didelot
2015-08-25 23:24 ` Stephen Hemminger
2015-08-25 23:23   ` Florian Fainelli
2015-08-25 23:44 ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-08-25 23:52   ` David Ahern
2015-08-26  0:05     ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-08-26  0:12 ` David Miller
2015-08-26  4:24   ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-26 17:37     ` Florian Fainelli
2015-08-26 17:56       ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-26 17:32   ` Florian Fainelli

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