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From: "Yocto" <yocto@optimcloud.com>
To: yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org
Subject: Re: [yocto] hostile freenode takeover
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 17:18:59 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6ae167be-fbeb-371e-8948-47b41ec371c5@optimcloud.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP71WjwJ4QdLM7FJpuADLP7A5K4x8zvX8MeyFXBHaa6DBicHDg@mail.gmail.com>

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On 5/20/21 3:32 PM, Nicolas Dechesne wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:16 AM Quentin Schulz 
> <quentin.schulz@streamunlimited.com 
> <mailto:quentin.schulz@streamunlimited.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Khem, all,
>
>     On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 10:09:12AM -0700, Khem Raj wrote:
>     > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:56 AM Nicolas Dechesne
>     > <nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org
>     <mailto:nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:49 PM Jasper Orschulko
>     <Jasper.Orschulko@iris-sensing.com
>     <mailto:Jasper.Orschulko@iris-sensing.com>> wrote:
>     > >>
>     > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>     > >> Hash: SHA256
>     > >>
>     > >> Dear all,
>     > >>
>     > >> there have been recent reports of a hostile takeover of the
>     freenode
>     > >> service, as described in
>     > >>
>     https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
>     <https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409>
>     > >>
>     > >> The Yocto Project should verify these reports and take the
>     necessary
>     > >> actions, in order to protect its users.
>     > >
>     > >
>     > > Thanks for your email. We are aware, and have started to look
>     into that.
>     > >
>     > > It looks like some open source communities have started to
>     move to https://www.oftc.net/ <https://www.oftc.net/> or
>     https://libera.chat/ <https://libera.chat/>.. If anyone wants to
>     bring any insights or recommendations... feel free!
>     >
>     > perhaps good time to consider matrix
>     >
>
>     I disagree. Matrix just does not work. I've been using with a few
>     friends with mixed homeservers, chat.privacytools.io
>     <http://chat.privacytools.io>, matrix.org <http://matrix.org>,
>     converser.eu <http://converser.eu> and self-hosted homeservers...
>     I've sometimes not received
>     tens of messages in a row, usually for a duration of at least 15 mins
>     and there's obviously no indication whatsoever that I didn't receive
>     messages except that the discussion does not make sense at all.
>     And this
>     happened to three other people on the room, each on a different
>     homeserver
>     than the other, so not a PEBKAC :) Sometimes there are delays for
>     messages too (I've seen 30min delays), so the whole context is lost.
>
>     For a federated chat solution, that's really a bummer that its main
>     feature is just so buggy it's unusable.
>
>     If YP is ok with potentially not receiving questions or having people
>     ask questions and not receive answers, then fine by me :)
>
>     I'm probably among the small (?) minority of people experiencing those
>     issues but that's not a bet I'd take with my projects.
>
>     My 2¢.
>
>
> I think the question of setting up Matrix for our community is a valid 
> question, though I think it's orthogonal to the current problem. If 
> freenode goes away , we need an alternate plan to move *right away* to 
> another IRC server. If we want to setup addition communications means 
> (such as Matrix or anything else) that needs to be discussed and it 
> might take more time.

First let me say, there is nothing wrong with matrix, have used it every 
day for years

Second

the discussion is now about libre


there's a relay to relay stuff between libera and freenode?!
magic
LiberaRelay (relay@2607:f5a0:0:7::9) has joined #hardenedbsd
[Libera] R​elay (relay@user/relay) has joined #hardenedbsd
xmj: sup ? Libra?? whats dat ?
new irc net, made by freenode staffers that have been booted
freenode went through a hostile takeover
... in case you haven't noticed ;p

https://kline.sh/


>
>     Cheers,
>     Quentin
>
>
> 
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-20 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-19 16:49 hostile freenode takeover Jasper Orschulko
2021-05-19 16:56 ` [yocto] " Nicolas Dechesne
2021-05-19 17:04   ` Joe MacDonald
2021-05-19 17:09   ` Khem Raj
2021-05-20  8:16     ` Quentin Schulz
2021-05-20  8:32       ` Nicolas Dechesne
2021-05-20 10:18         ` Yocto [this message]
2021-05-20 12:55         ` Philip Balister

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