From: "Philip Balister" <philip@balister.org>
To: Nicolas Dechesne <nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org>,
Quentin Schulz <quentin.schulz@streamunlimited.com>
Cc: Khem Raj <raj.khem@gmail.com>,
Jasper Orschulko <Jasper.Orschulko@iris-sensing.com>,
"yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org" <yocto@lists.yoctoproject.org>
Subject: Re: [yocto] hostile freenode takeover
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 08:55:52 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeeca5ab-950b-ee70-a747-a3e2f04021ee@balister.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP71WjwJ4QdLM7FJpuADLP7A5K4x8zvX8MeyFXBHaa6DBicHDg@mail.gmail.com>
On 5/20/21 4:32 AM, Nicolas Dechesne wrote:
> On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 10:16 AM Quentin Schulz <
> quentin.schulz@streamunlimited.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Khem, all,
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 10:09:12AM -0700, Khem Raj wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:56 AM Nicolas Dechesne
>>> <nicolas.dechesne@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 6:49 PM Jasper Orschulko <
>> Jasper.Orschulko@iris-sensing.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> Hash: SHA256
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>> there have been recent reports of a hostile takeover of the freenode
>>>>> service, as described in
>>>>> https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409
>>>>>
>>>>> The Yocto Project should verify these reports and take the necessary
>>>>> actions, in order to protect its users.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your email. We are aware, and have started to look into
>> that.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like some open source communities have started to move to
>> https://www.oftc.net/ or https://libera.chat/.. If anyone wants to bring
>> any insights or recommendations... feel free!
>>>
>>> perhaps good time to consider matrix
>>>
>>
>> I disagree. Matrix just does not work. I've been using with a few
>> friends with mixed homeservers, chat.privacytools.io, matrix.org,
>> converser.eu and self-hosted homeservers... I've sometimes not received
>> tens of messages in a row, usually for a duration of at least 15 mins
>> and there's obviously no indication whatsoever that I didn't receive
>> messages except that the discussion does not make sense at all. And this
>> happened to three other people on the room, each on a different homeserver
>> than the other, so not a PEBKAC :) Sometimes there are delays for
>> messages too (I've seen 30min delays), so the whole context is lost.
>>
>> For a federated chat solution, that's really a bummer that its main
>> feature is just so buggy it's unusable.
>>
>> If YP is ok with potentially not receiving questions or having people
>> ask questions and not receive answers, then fine by me :)
>>
>> I'm probably among the small (?) minority of people experiencing those
>> issues but that's not a bet I'd take with my projects.
>>
>> My 2¢.
>>
>
> I think the question of setting up Matrix for our community is a valid
> question, though I think it's orthogonal to the current problem. If
> freenode goes away , we need an alternate plan to move *right away* to
> another IRC server. If we want to setup addition communications means (such
> as Matrix or anything else) that needs to be discussed and it might take
> more time.
We have registered #oe and #yocto on libera already, so we can easily
transition irc servers as the situation develops.
Philip
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Quentin
>>
>
>
>
>
>
prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-20 12:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-19 16:49 hostile freenode takeover Jasper Orschulko
2021-05-19 16:56 ` [yocto] " Nicolas Dechesne
2021-05-19 17:04 ` Joe MacDonald
2021-05-19 17:09 ` Khem Raj
2021-05-20 8:16 ` Quentin Schulz
2021-05-20 8:32 ` Nicolas Dechesne
2021-05-20 10:18 ` Yocto
2021-05-20 12:55 ` Philip Balister [this message]
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