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From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>
Cc: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>, Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>,
	davem <davem@davemloft.net>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	mst <mst@redhat.com>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] tun: indicate support for USO feature
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 16:43:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSfr4gLwx0PaRCB1K=TUE_yawpnWx05U9yO0eQ1B+Pa+bg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOEp5Oe7FQQFbO7KDiyBPs1=ox+6rOimOwounTHBuVki2Y3DAg@mail.gmail.com>

> > > > > So the question is what to do now:
> > > > > A)
> > > > > Finalize patches for guest TX and respective QEMU patches
> > > > > Prepare RFC patches for guest RX, get ack on them
> > > > > Change the spec
> > > > > Finalize patches for guest RX according to the spec
> > > > >
> > > > > B)
> > > > > Reject the patches for guest TX
> > > > > Prepare RFC patches for everything, get ack on them
> > > > > Change the spec
> > > > > Finalize patches for everything according to the spec
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm for A) of course :)
> > > >
> > > > I'm for B :)
> > > >
> > > > The reasons are:
> > > >
> > > > 1) keep the assumption of tun_set_offload() to simply the logic and
> > > > compatibility
> > > > 2) it's hard or tricky to touch guest TX path only (e.g the
> > > > virtio_net_hdr_from_skb() is called in both RX and TX)
> > >
> > > I suspect there is _some_ misunderstanding here.
> > > I did not touch virtio_net_hdr_from_skb at all.
> > >
> >
> > Typo, actually I meant virtio_net_hdr_to_skb().
> OK.
> 2) tun_get_user() which is guest TX - this is covered
> 3) tap_get_user() which is guest TX - this is covered
> 4) {t}packet_send() which is userspace TX - this is OK, the userspace
> does not have this feature, it will never use USO

What do you mean exactly? I can certainly imagine packet socket users
that could benefit from using udp gso.

When adding support for a new GSO type in virtio_net_hdr, it ideally
is supported by all users of that interface. Alternatively, if some
users do not support the flag, a call that sets the flag has to
(continue to) fail hard, so that we can enable it at a later time.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>
To: Yuri Benditovich <yuri.benditovich@daynix.com>
Cc: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	mst <mst@redhat.com>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Yan Vugenfirer <yan@daynix.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	davem <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] tun: indicate support for USO feature
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 16:43:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+FuTSfr4gLwx0PaRCB1K=TUE_yawpnWx05U9yO0eQ1B+Pa+bg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOEp5Oe7FQQFbO7KDiyBPs1=ox+6rOimOwounTHBuVki2Y3DAg@mail.gmail.com>

> > > > > So the question is what to do now:
> > > > > A)
> > > > > Finalize patches for guest TX and respective QEMU patches
> > > > > Prepare RFC patches for guest RX, get ack on them
> > > > > Change the spec
> > > > > Finalize patches for guest RX according to the spec
> > > > >
> > > > > B)
> > > > > Reject the patches for guest TX
> > > > > Prepare RFC patches for everything, get ack on them
> > > > > Change the spec
> > > > > Finalize patches for everything according to the spec
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm for A) of course :)
> > > >
> > > > I'm for B :)
> > > >
> > > > The reasons are:
> > > >
> > > > 1) keep the assumption of tun_set_offload() to simply the logic and
> > > > compatibility
> > > > 2) it's hard or tricky to touch guest TX path only (e.g the
> > > > virtio_net_hdr_from_skb() is called in both RX and TX)
> > >
> > > I suspect there is _some_ misunderstanding here.
> > > I did not touch virtio_net_hdr_from_skb at all.
> > >
> >
> > Typo, actually I meant virtio_net_hdr_to_skb().
> OK.
> 2) tun_get_user() which is guest TX - this is covered
> 3) tap_get_user() which is guest TX - this is covered
> 4) {t}packet_send() which is userspace TX - this is OK, the userspace
> does not have this feature, it will never use USO

What do you mean exactly? I can certainly imagine packet socket users
that could benefit from using udp gso.

When adding support for a new GSO type in virtio_net_hdr, it ideally
is supported by all users of that interface. Alternatively, if some
users do not support the flag, a call that sets the flag has to
(continue to) fail hard, so that we can enable it at a later time.
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-11  4:42 [PATCH 0/4] Add host USO support to TUN device Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42 ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42 ` [PATCH 1/4] virtio-net: add definitions for host USO feature Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  6:47   ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  6:47     ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  8:12     ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  8:12       ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  8:24       ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  8:24         ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  9:21         ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  9:21           ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12  1:21           ` Jason Wang
2021-05-12  1:21             ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  4:42 ` [PATCH 2/4] virtio-net: add support of UDP segmentation (USO) on the host Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  6:47   ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  6:47     ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  8:23     ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  8:23       ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  8:31       ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  8:31         ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11 17:47   ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-11 17:47     ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12  6:09     ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12  6:09       ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12 14:32       ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12 14:32         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12 18:56         ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12 18:56           ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12 19:53           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-12 19:53             ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-11  4:42 ` [PATCH 3/4] tun: define feature bit for USO support Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42 ` [PATCH 4/4] tun: indicate support for USO feature Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  4:42   ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  6:50   ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  6:50     ` Jason Wang
2021-05-11  8:33     ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11  8:33       ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11 19:06       ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-11 19:06         ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12  1:33       ` Jason Wang
2021-05-12  1:33         ` Jason Wang
2021-05-12  5:24         ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-12  5:24           ` Yuri Benditovich
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2021-05-13  7:04                       ` Jason Wang
2021-05-13  7:04                         ` Jason Wang
2021-05-13  8:14                         ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-13  8:14                           ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-13 20:43                           ` Willem de Bruijn [this message]
2021-05-13 20:43                             ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-14  5:48                             ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-14  5:48                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-13 20:34                         ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-13 20:34                           ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-14  7:16                           ` Jason Wang
2021-05-14  7:16                             ` Jason Wang
2021-05-14  7:38                             ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-14  7:38                               ` Yuri Benditovich
2021-05-14 12:41                               ` Willem de Bruijn
2021-05-14 12:41                                 ` Willem de Bruijn

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