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From: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
To: "Jürgen Groß" <jgross@suse.com>
Cc: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>,
	Chunyan Liu <cyliu@suse.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Jim Fehlig <jfehlig@suse.com>, Simon Cao <caobosimon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:03:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFLBxZbB-2rRrWAmSFe_R8T4amWH7rtxJgqpg5S5kuHgejd5gg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558000E5.9000803@suse.com>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Jürgen Groß <jgross@suse.com> wrote:
> On 06/16/2015 12:41 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
>>
>> George Dunlap writes ("Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb
>> API"):
>>>
>>> Ian / Ian / Wei / Jim:
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>>> 3. Have the libxl layer accept both busid and bus:addr.  Translate as
>>> necessary and store in the libxl_device_usb struct.
>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> The advantage of #3 internally is that the functions can do the
>>> translation once (if necessary), and can then pass around the public
>>> libxl_device_usb struct as-is without needing any extra parameters or
>>> a separate libxl_device_usb_internal.  The disadvantage, I think, is
>>> that from an interface perspective, it's fairly pointless to have
>>> both.  busid doesn't really give you any better or more control than
>>> the other, and it's not any more convenient for the user (in fact it's
>>> less convenient because it's more difficult to find).
>>
>>
>> Is the busid more stable in the face of plug/unplug ?  This is the
>> normal reason for a more path-like device specification.
>>
>> If so then we must support it, even if it's not the usual way an
>> ordinary user would use it for a one-off.  Otherwise you have to write
>> something in your config files for the VMs on your VM host, which will
>> break when someone plugs a keyboard into the `wrong' USB port.
>
>
> Unfortunately the busid isn't stable at least across reboots.

Isn't it based on the physical topology of the USB network?  Shouldn't
it be the same as long as you don't actually unplug anything?

 -George

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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-10  3:20 [PATCH V4 0/7] xen pvusb toolstack work Chunyan Liu
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 1/7] libxl: export some functions for pvusb use Chunyan Liu
2015-06-11 16:08   ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-11 16:28     ` Wei Liu
2015-06-12 15:14       ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 2/7] libxl_read_file_contents: add new entry to read sysfs file Chunyan Liu
2015-06-11 16:16   ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-12  7:00     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-12 15:11       ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API Chunyan Liu
2015-06-11 15:00   ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-11 16:07     ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-11 16:42   ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-12  7:39     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-12  8:06       ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-12 11:22       ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-15 14:17   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-15 14:25     ` Jürgen Groß
2015-06-15 14:34       ` George Dunlap
2015-06-15 18:26         ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 10:30           ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 10:51             ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 11:11               ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 11:19                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 11:23                   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 11:44                     ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-17 11:24                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-18 11:50                         ` George Dunlap
2015-06-18 12:08                         ` George Dunlap
2015-06-18 13:03                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-22 13:29                           ` Proposed plan for libxl USB interface (was Re: [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API) George Dunlap
2015-06-22 14:14                             ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-22 14:22                             ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-23  2:42                             ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-23  2:43                             ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-23  2:44                             ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-16 10:41     ` [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 10:56       ` Jürgen Groß
2015-06-16 11:03         ` George Dunlap [this message]
2015-06-16 11:10         ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 11:25           ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 11:45             ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 12:02               ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 13:19                 ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 13:32                   ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 13:37                   ` [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API [and 1 more messages] Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 14:41                     ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 15:58                       ` Sander Eikelenboom
2015-06-16 15:59                       ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 16:34                         ` George Dunlap
2015-06-17  3:59                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-17 10:27                             ` George Dunlap
2015-06-18  6:24                               ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-16 11:45             ` [PATCH V4 3/7] libxl: add pvusb API Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 13:06               ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 13:09                 ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 13:23                   ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 13:29                     ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 13:49                       ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 14:06                         ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 14:20                           ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 14:37                             ` George Dunlap
2015-06-17 11:34                             ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-17 11:40                               ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-18  6:20                               ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-18  7:02                                 ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-18  8:50                                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-06-18 13:02                                     ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-16 15:38             ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 11:01       ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 11:12         ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 11:21           ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 16:32             ` Ian Jackson
2015-06-16 16:39               ` George Dunlap
2015-06-16 16:51                 ` Ross Philipson
2015-06-17  4:03                   ` Jürgen Groß
2015-06-17 13:48                     ` Ross Philipson
2015-06-15 17:47   ` George Dunlap
2015-06-23 10:18     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-23 11:29       ` George Dunlap
2015-06-24  2:26         ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 4/7] libxl: add libxl_device_usb_assignable_list API Chunyan Liu
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 5/7] xl: add pvusb commands Chunyan Liu
2015-06-12  7:37   ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-12  8:03     ` Chun Yan Liu
2015-06-12  8:22       ` Juergen Gross
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 6/7] xl: add usb-assignable-list command Chunyan Liu
2015-06-10  3:20 ` [PATCH V4 7/7] domcreate: support pvusb in configuration file Chunyan Liu

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