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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 21/22] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{PAUSE,RESUME}_ATTESTATION commands
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 07:27:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zi-t65xmCk9x78lb@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240427013210.ioz7mv3yuu2r5un6@amd.com>

On Fri, Apr 26, 2024, Michael Roth wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 05:10:10PM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > e.g. put the cert in a directory along with a lock.  Actually, IIUC, there doesn't
> > even need to be a separate lock file.  I know very little about userspace programming,
> > but common sense and a quick search tells me that file locks are a solved problem.
> > 
> > E.g. it took me ~5 minutes of Googling to come up with this, which AFAICT does
> > exactly what you want.
> > 
> > touch ~/vlek.cert
> > (
> >   flock -e 200
> >   echo "Locked the cert, sleeping for 10 seconds"
> >   sleep 10
> >   echo "Igor, it's alive!!!!!!"
> > ) 200< vlek.cert
> > 
> > touch ~/vlek.cert
> > (
> >   flock -s 201
> >   echo "Got me a shared lock, no updates for you!"
> > ) 201< vlek.cert
> > 
> 
> Hmm... I did completely miss this option. But I think there are still some
> issues here. IIUC you're suggesting (for example):
> 
>   "Management":
>   a) writelock vlek.cert
>   b) perform SNP_LOAD_VLEK and update vlek.cert contents
>   c) unlock vlek.cert
> 
>   "QEMU":
>   a) readlock vlek.cert
>   b) copy cert into guest buffer
>   c) unlock vlek.cert
> 
> The issue is that after "QEMU" unlocks and return the cert to KVM we'll
> have:
> 
>   "KVM"
>   a) return from EXT_GUEST_REQ exit to userspace
>   b) issue the attestation report to firmware
>   c) return the attestation report and cert to the guest
> 
> Between a) and b), "Management" can complete another entire update, but
> the cert that it passes back to the guest will be stale relative to the
> key used to sign the attestation report.

I was thinking userspace would hold the lock across SEV_CMD_SNP_GUEST_REQUEST.

   QEMU:
    a) readlock vlek.cert
    b) copy cert into guest buffer
    c) set kvm_run->immediate_exit
    d) invoke KVM_RUN
    e) KVM sends SEV_CMD_SNP_GUEST_REQUEST to PSP
    f) KVM exits to userspace with -EINTR
    g) unlock vlek.cert
    h) invoke KVM_RUN (resume the guest)

> If we need to take more time to explore other options it's not
> absolutely necessary to have the kernel solve this now. But every userspace
> will need to solve it in some way so it seemed like it might be nice to
> have a simple reference implementation to start with.

Shoving something into the kernel is not a "reference implementation", especially
not when it impacts the ABI of multiple subsystems.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-21 18:01 [PATCH v14 00/22] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 01/22] KVM: SEV: Select KVM_GENERIC_PRIVATE_MEM when CONFIG_KVM_AMD_SEV=y Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 02/22] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle AP reset MSR protocol Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 03/22] KVM: SEV: Add GHCB handling for Hypervisor Feature Support requests Michael Roth
2024-04-24 20:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-25 20:52     ` Michael Roth
2024-04-25 21:55       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 04/22] KVM: SEV: Add initial SEV-SNP support Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 05/22] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_START command Michael Roth
2024-04-24 23:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 06/22] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_UPDATE command Michael Roth
2024-04-24 23:58   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 07/22] KVM: SEV: Add KVM_SEV_SNP_LAUNCH_FINISH command Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 08/22] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 09/22] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-04-24 20:59   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-25 22:00     ` Michael Roth
2024-04-25 22:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26 17:16         ` Michael Roth
2024-04-26 20:14           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26 22:24             ` Michael Roth
2024-04-26 22:48               ` Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 10/22] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 11/22] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle RMP nested page faults Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 12/22] KVM: SEV: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation NAE event Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 13/22] KVM: SEV: Add support for GHCB-based termination requests Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 14/22] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for initializing private pages Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 15/22] KVM: SEV: Implement gmem hook for invalidating " Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 16/22] KVM: x86: Implement gmem hook for determining max NPT mapping level Michael Roth
2024-04-25  0:45   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 17/22] KVM: SEV: Avoid WBINVD for HVA-based MMU notifications for SNP Michael Roth
2024-04-25  0:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 18/22] KVM: SVM: Add module parameter to enable SEV-SNP Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 19/22] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 20/22] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_VLEK_LOAD command Michael Roth
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 21/22] crypto: ccp: Add the SNP_{PAUSE,RESUME}_ATTESTATION commands Michael Roth
2024-04-25  0:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26 17:35     ` Michael Roth
2024-04-26 19:57       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26 21:46         ` Michael Roth
2024-04-27  0:10           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-27  1:32             ` Michael Roth
2024-04-29 14:27               ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-04-21 18:01 ` [PATCH v14 22/22] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-04-25  0:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26 17:57     ` Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21 ` [PATCH v14 23/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle GHCB GPA register VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 24/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle MSR based Page State Change VMGEXIT Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 25/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Add support to handle " Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 26/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Add support for GHCB-based termination requests Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 27/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_GUEST_REQUEST NAE event Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 28/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Provide support for SNP_EXTENDED_GUEST_REQUEST " Michael Roth
2024-04-23 21:36     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2024-04-23 16:21   ` [PATCH v14 29/22] [SQUASH] KVM: SEV: Support SEV-SNP AP Creation " Michael Roth
2024-04-23 16:31 ` [PATCH v14 00/22] Add AMD Secure Nested Paging (SEV-SNP) Hypervisor Support Michael Roth
2024-04-24 16:51   ` Paolo Bonzini

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