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From: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andy Chiu" <andy.chiu@sifive.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Evan Green" <evan@rivosinc.com>,
	"Clément Léger" <cleger@rivosinc.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/17] riscv: vector: Use vlenb from DT
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 13:28:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkZV3yxbxab4W6I4@ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240516-grandkid-monday-86c698ca4aed@spud>

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:24:25PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:00:12PM +0800, Andy Chiu wrote:
> > On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 2:21 AM Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> 
> > > +               if (elf_hwcap & COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V && has_riscv_homogeneous_vlenb() < 0) {
> > > +                       pr_warn("Unsupported heterogeneous vlen detected, vector extension disabled.\
> > > +                       elf_hwcap &= ~COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V;
> > > +               }
> > 
> > We only touch COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V and the failed case only turns off the
> > rectified V. So here we have nothing to do with the Xtheadvector.
> 
> There's nothing t-head related in the tree at this point, so doing
> anything with it would cause build issues.
> 
> > However, I am still confused because I think Xtheadvector would also
> > need to call into this check, so as to setup vlenb.
> 
> 
> > Apart from that, it seems like some vendor stating Xtheadvector is
> > actually vector-0.7.
> 
> The T-Head implementation is 0.7.x, but I am not really sure what you
> mean by this comment.

Andy, the idea of this patch was to be able to support this binding on
more than just xtheadvector.

You are correct though Andy, this is a problem that a later patch in
this series doesn't disable xtheadvector when vlenb is not homogeneous.
I am going to wait to send out any more versions until after this merge
window but I will fix this in the next version. Thank you! 

> 
> > Please correct me if I speak anything wrong. One
> > thing I noticed is that Xtheadvector wouldn't trap on reading
> > th.vlenb but vector-0.7 would. If that is the case, should we require
> > Xtheadvector to specify `riscv,vlenb` on the device tree?
> 
> In the world of Linux, "vector-0.7" isn't a thing. There's only 1.0, and
> after this patchset, "xtheadvector". My understanding, from discussion
> on earlier versions of this series the trap is actually accessing
> th.vlenb register, despite the documentation stating that it is
> unprivileged:
> https://github.com/T-head-Semi/thead-extension-spec/blob/master/xtheadvector.adoc
> I assume Charlie tried it but was trapping, as v1 had a comment:
> +		 * Although xtheadvector states that th.vlenb exists and
> +		 * overlaps with the vector 1.0 extension overlaps, an illegal
> +		 * instruction is raised if read. These systems all currently
> +		 * have a fixed vector length of 128, so hardcode that value.

On my board with a c906 attempting to read th.vlenb (which is supposed
to have the same encoding as vlenb) raises an illegal instruction
exception from S-mode even though the documentation states that it
shouldn't. Because the documentation states that vlenb is available, I
haven't made it required for xtheadvector, I am not sure the proper
solution for that.

- Charlie

> 
> Cheers,
> Conor.



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From: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andy Chiu" <andy.chiu@sifive.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Evan Green" <evan@rivosinc.com>,
	"Clément Léger" <cleger@rivosinc.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/17] riscv: vector: Use vlenb from DT
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 13:28:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkZV3yxbxab4W6I4@ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240516-grandkid-monday-86c698ca4aed@spud>

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:24:25PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:00:12PM +0800, Andy Chiu wrote:
> > On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 2:21 AM Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> 
> > > +               if (elf_hwcap & COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V && has_riscv_homogeneous_vlenb() < 0) {
> > > +                       pr_warn("Unsupported heterogeneous vlen detected, vector extension disabled.\
> > > +                       elf_hwcap &= ~COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V;
> > > +               }
> > 
> > We only touch COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V and the failed case only turns off the
> > rectified V. So here we have nothing to do with the Xtheadvector.
> 
> There's nothing t-head related in the tree at this point, so doing
> anything with it would cause build issues.
> 
> > However, I am still confused because I think Xtheadvector would also
> > need to call into this check, so as to setup vlenb.
> 
> 
> > Apart from that, it seems like some vendor stating Xtheadvector is
> > actually vector-0.7.
> 
> The T-Head implementation is 0.7.x, but I am not really sure what you
> mean by this comment.

Andy, the idea of this patch was to be able to support this binding on
more than just xtheadvector.

You are correct though Andy, this is a problem that a later patch in
this series doesn't disable xtheadvector when vlenb is not homogeneous.
I am going to wait to send out any more versions until after this merge
window but I will fix this in the next version. Thank you! 

> 
> > Please correct me if I speak anything wrong. One
> > thing I noticed is that Xtheadvector wouldn't trap on reading
> > th.vlenb but vector-0.7 would. If that is the case, should we require
> > Xtheadvector to specify `riscv,vlenb` on the device tree?
> 
> In the world of Linux, "vector-0.7" isn't a thing. There's only 1.0, and
> after this patchset, "xtheadvector". My understanding, from discussion
> on earlier versions of this series the trap is actually accessing
> th.vlenb register, despite the documentation stating that it is
> unprivileged:
> https://github.com/T-head-Semi/thead-extension-spec/blob/master/xtheadvector.adoc
> I assume Charlie tried it but was trapping, as v1 had a comment:
> +		 * Although xtheadvector states that th.vlenb exists and
> +		 * overlaps with the vector 1.0 extension overlaps, an illegal
> +		 * instruction is raised if read. These systems all currently
> +		 * have a fixed vector length of 128, so hardcode that value.

On my board with a c906 attempting to read th.vlenb (which is supposed
to have the same encoding as vlenb) raises an illegal instruction
exception from S-mode even though the documentation states that it
shouldn't. Because the documentation states that vlenb is available, I
haven't made it required for xtheadvector, I am not sure the proper
solution for that.

- Charlie

> 
> Cheers,
> Conor.



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From: Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com>
To: Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>
Cc: "Andy Chiu" <andy.chiu@sifive.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Paul Walmsley" <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
	"Albert Ou" <aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>,
	"Guo Ren" <guoren@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	"Samuel Holland" <samuel@sholland.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor.dooley@microchip.com>,
	"Evan Green" <evan@rivosinc.com>,
	"Clément Léger" <cleger@rivosinc.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Palmer Dabbelt" <palmer@rivosinc.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 03/17] riscv: vector: Use vlenb from DT
Date: Thu, 16 May 2024 13:28:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZkZV3yxbxab4W6I4@ghost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240516-grandkid-monday-86c698ca4aed@spud>

On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 05:24:25PM +0100, Conor Dooley wrote:
> On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 10:00:12PM +0800, Andy Chiu wrote:
> > On Sat, May 4, 2024 at 2:21 AM Charlie Jenkins <charlie@rivosinc.com> wrote:
> 
> > > +               if (elf_hwcap & COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V && has_riscv_homogeneous_vlenb() < 0) {
> > > +                       pr_warn("Unsupported heterogeneous vlen detected, vector extension disabled.\
> > > +                       elf_hwcap &= ~COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V;
> > > +               }
> > 
> > We only touch COMPAT_HWCAP_ISA_V and the failed case only turns off the
> > rectified V. So here we have nothing to do with the Xtheadvector.
> 
> There's nothing t-head related in the tree at this point, so doing
> anything with it would cause build issues.
> 
> > However, I am still confused because I think Xtheadvector would also
> > need to call into this check, so as to setup vlenb.
> 
> 
> > Apart from that, it seems like some vendor stating Xtheadvector is
> > actually vector-0.7.
> 
> The T-Head implementation is 0.7.x, but I am not really sure what you
> mean by this comment.

Andy, the idea of this patch was to be able to support this binding on
more than just xtheadvector.

You are correct though Andy, this is a problem that a later patch in
this series doesn't disable xtheadvector when vlenb is not homogeneous.
I am going to wait to send out any more versions until after this merge
window but I will fix this in the next version. Thank you! 

> 
> > Please correct me if I speak anything wrong. One
> > thing I noticed is that Xtheadvector wouldn't trap on reading
> > th.vlenb but vector-0.7 would. If that is the case, should we require
> > Xtheadvector to specify `riscv,vlenb` on the device tree?
> 
> In the world of Linux, "vector-0.7" isn't a thing. There's only 1.0, and
> after this patchset, "xtheadvector". My understanding, from discussion
> on earlier versions of this series the trap is actually accessing
> th.vlenb register, despite the documentation stating that it is
> unprivileged:
> https://github.com/T-head-Semi/thead-extension-spec/blob/master/xtheadvector.adoc
> I assume Charlie tried it but was trapping, as v1 had a comment:
> +		 * Although xtheadvector states that th.vlenb exists and
> +		 * overlaps with the vector 1.0 extension overlaps, an illegal
> +		 * instruction is raised if read. These systems all currently
> +		 * have a fixed vector length of 128, so hardcode that value.

On my board with a c906 attempting to read th.vlenb (which is supposed
to have the same encoding as vlenb) raises an illegal instruction
exception from S-mode even though the documentation states that it
shouldn't. Because the documentation states that vlenb is available, I
haven't made it required for xtheadvector, I am not sure the proper
solution for that.

- Charlie

> 
> Cheers,
> Conor.



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-16 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 111+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-03 18:18 [PATCH v6 00/17] riscv: Support vendor extensions and xtheadvector Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 01/17] dt-bindings: riscv: Add xtheadvector ISA extension description Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-16 12:48   ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 12:48     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 12:48     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 02/17] dt-bindings: riscv: cpus: add a vlen register length property Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-16 12:50   ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 12:50     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 12:50     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 03/17] riscv: vector: Use vlenb from DT Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-09  8:17   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-09  8:17     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-09  8:17     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 13:11   ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 13:11     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 13:11     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 14:00   ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 14:00     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 14:00     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-16 16:24     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 16:24       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 16:24       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 20:28       ` Charlie Jenkins [this message]
2024-05-16 20:28         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-16 20:28         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-16 20:31         ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 20:31           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-16 20:31           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 04/17] riscv: dts: allwinner: Add xtheadvector to the D1/D1s devicetree Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 05/17] riscv: Extend cpufeature.c to detect vendor extensions Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 21:02   ` Evan Green
2024-05-03 21:02     ` Evan Green
2024-05-03 21:02     ` Evan Green
2024-05-09  8:18   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-09  8:18     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-09  8:18     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 06/17] riscv: Add vendor extensions to /proc/cpuinfo Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 21:03   ` Evan Green
2024-05-03 21:03     ` Evan Green
2024-05-03 21:03     ` Evan Green
2024-05-07 17:03   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-07 17:03     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-07 17:03     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 20:50     ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 20:50       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 20:50       ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 21:25       ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-10 21:25         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-10 21:25         ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-10 21:32         ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 21:32           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 21:32           ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-10 21:47           ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-10 21:47             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-10 21:47             ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 07/17] riscv: Introduce vendor variants of extension helpers Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 08/17] riscv: cpufeature: Extract common elements from extension checking Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 09/17] riscv: Convert xandespmu to use the vendor extension framework Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 10/17] RISC-V: define the elements of the VCSR vector CSR Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 11/17] riscv: csr: Add CSR encodings for VCSR_VXRM/VCSR_VXSAT Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 12/17] riscv: Add xtheadvector instruction definitions Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 13/17] riscv: vector: Support xtheadvector save/restore Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-13  8:45   ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-13  8:45     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-13  8:45     ` Andy Chiu
2024-05-13 16:56     ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-13 16:56       ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-13 16:56       ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 14/17] riscv: hwprobe: Add thead vendor extension probing Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 15/17] riscv: hwprobe: Document thead vendor extensions and xtheadvector extension Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 16/17] selftests: riscv: Fix vector tests Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18 ` [PATCH v6 17/17] selftests: riscv: Support xtheadvector in " Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-03 18:18   ` Charlie Jenkins
2024-05-07 17:21 ` [PATCH v6 00/17] riscv: Support vendor extensions and xtheadvector Conor Dooley
2024-05-07 17:21   ` Conor Dooley
2024-05-07 17:21   ` Conor Dooley

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