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From: Christopher Faylor <me@cgf.cx>
To: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 14:55:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060226195552.GA30735@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <81b0412b0602230607n22146a77k36929f0ad9e44d53@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 23, 2006 at 03:07:07PM +0100, Alex Riesen wrote:
>On 2/23/06, Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se> wrote:
>>>>Not to be unhelpful or anything, but activestate perl seems to be quite
>>>>a lot of bother.  Is it worth supporting it?
>>>
>>>
>>>It's not activestate perl actually.  It's only one platform it also
>>>_has_ to support.  Is it worth supporting Windows?
>>
>>With or without cygwin?  With cygwin, I'd say "yes, unless it makes
>>things terribly difficult to maintain and so long as we don't take
>>performance hits on unices".  Without cygwin, I'd say "What?  It runs
>>on windows?".
>
>There not much difference with or without cygwin.  The penalties of
>doing any kind of support for it will pile up (as they started to do
>with pipes).  Someday we'll have to start dropping features on Windows
>or restrict them beyond their usefullness.  The fork emulation in
>cygwin isn't perfect,

If the speed of cygwin's fork is an issue then I'd previously suggested
using spawn*.  The spawn family of functions were designed to emulate
Windows functions of the same name.  They start a new process without
the requirement of forking.

>signals do not work reliably (if at all),

I'm not sure if you're mixing cygwin with windows here but if signals do
not work reliably in Cygwin then that is something that we'd like to
know about.  Signals *obviously* have to work fairly well for programs
like ssh, bash, and X to work, however.

Native Windows, OTOH, hardly has any signals at all and deals with
signals in a way that is only vaguely like linux.

>filesystem is slow and locked down, and exec-attribute is NOT really
>useful even on NTFS (it is somehow related to execute permission and
>open files.  I still cannot figure out how exactly are they related).

Again, it's not clear if you're talking about Windows or Cygwin but
under Cygwin, in the default configuration, the exec attribute means the
same thing to cygwin as it does to linux.

As always, if you have questions or problems with cygwin, you can ask in
the proper forum.  The available cygwin mailing lists are here:
http://cygwin.com/lists.html.

Would getting git into the cygwin distribution solve any problems with
git adoption on Windows?  This would get an automatic green light from
anyone who was interested, if so.  Someone would just have to send an
"ITP" (Intent To Package) to the cygwin-apps mailing list and provide a
package using the guidelines here: http://cygwin.com/setup.html .

cgf
--
Christopher Faylor			spammer? ->	aaaspam@sourceware.org
Cygwin Co-Project Leader
TimeSys, Inc.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-02-26 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-20 18:37 Should we support Perl 5.6? Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-20 19:10 ` Eric Wong
2006-02-20 21:01   ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-20 21:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:05   ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6 Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] rerere: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] send-email: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] svmimport: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:19     ` [PATCH] cvsimport: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-21 17:30     ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: " Alex Riesen
2006-02-21 20:36       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-21 21:57         ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-21 22:19           ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-21 22:35             ` Eric Wong
2006-02-21 22:38             ` Shawn Pearce
2006-02-21 23:00             ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-21 22:38           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-22 16:35             ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-22 19:44               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-22 19:51               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-22 19:54                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-22 22:00               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-22 22:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23  8:00                 ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  8:45                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23  9:35                     ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  9:41                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  9:48                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 10:10                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23 13:29                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 14:07                               ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23 14:22                                 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 17:13                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 19:32                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23 19:38                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-23 19:54                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 20:19                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-23 19:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 20:31                                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-24  6:43                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 21:43                                   ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 19:55                                 ` Christopher Faylor [this message]
2006-02-26 20:18                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-26 20:40                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 14:18                                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:18                                         ` Mark Wooding
2006-03-02 16:11                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:22                                         ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:20                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 23:17                                   ` NT directory traversal speed on 25K files on Cygwin Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-02-27  1:18                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-27 18:30                                       ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-02-27 18:34                                         ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-27  9:19                                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-27 18:45                                       ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-03-02 13:40                                         ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 14:10                                   ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6 Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:00                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:10                                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 17:39                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-03-02 22:01                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 20:33                               ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-24 12:02               ` Eric Wong
2006-02-24 13:44                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-24 16:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-21 20:56       ` Eric Wong
2006-02-21 22:04         ` Alex Riesen
     [not found]           ` <1cf1c57a0602211412r1988b14ao435edd29207dc0d0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-21 22:13             ` Ron Parker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-02 16:44 Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:55 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-03-02 22:09   ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 23:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  0:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-03-03  0:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  1:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-03-03  1:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  0:14     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 17:33 ` Johannes Schindelin

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