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From: "Alex Riesen" <raa.lkml@gmail.com>
To: "Andreas Ericsson" <ae@op5.se>
Cc: "Junio C Hamano" <junkio@cox.net>, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 15:07:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <81b0412b0602230607n22146a77k36929f0ad9e44d53@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43FDB8CC.5000503@op5.se>

On 2/23/06, Andreas Ericsson <ae@op5.se> wrote:
> >
> >>Not to be unhelpful or anything, but activestate perl seems to be quite
> >>a lot of bother. Is it worth supporting it?
> >
> >
> > It's not activestate perl actually. It's only one platform it also
> > _has_ to support.
> > Is it worth supporting Windows?
>
> With or without cygwin? With cygwin, I'd say "yes, unless it makes
> things terribly difficult to maintain and so long as we don't take
> performance hits on unices". Without cygwin, I'd say "What? It runs on
> windows?".

There not much difference with or without cygwin. The penalties of
doing any kind of support for it will pile up (as they started to do
with pipes).
Someday we'll have to start dropping features on Windows or restrict them
beyond their usefullness. The fork emulation in cygwin isn't perfect,
signals do not work reliably (if at all), filesystem is slow and locked down,
and exec-attribute is NOT really useful even on NTFS (it is somehow related
to execute permission and open files. I still cannot figure out how exactly
are they related).

> If we claim to support windows but do a poor job of it, no-one else will
> start working on a windows-port. If we don't claim to support windows
> but say that "it's known to work with cygwin, although be aware of these
> performance penalties...", eventually someone will come along with their
> shiny Visual Express and hack up support for it, even if some tools will
> be missing and others unnecessarily complicated.

That seem to be the case, except for shiny.
(I really don't know what could possibly mean by that. It stinks, smears,
and sometimes bounces. Never saw it shining).

  reply	other threads:[~2006-02-23 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-20 18:37 Should we support Perl 5.6? Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-20 19:10 ` Eric Wong
2006-02-20 21:01   ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-20 21:15     ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:05   ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6 Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] rerere: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] send-email: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:12     ` [PATCH] svmimport: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-20 22:19     ` [PATCH] cvsimport: " Junio C Hamano
2006-02-21 17:30     ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: " Alex Riesen
2006-02-21 20:36       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-21 21:57         ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-21 22:19           ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-21 22:35             ` Eric Wong
2006-02-21 22:38             ` Shawn Pearce
2006-02-21 23:00             ` Martin Langhoff
2006-02-21 22:38           ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-22 16:35             ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-22 19:44               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-22 19:51               ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-22 19:54                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-22 22:00               ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-22 22:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23  8:00                 ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  8:45                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23  9:35                     ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  9:41                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23  9:48                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 10:10                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-23 13:29                             ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 14:07                               ` Alex Riesen [this message]
2006-02-23 14:22                                 ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-23 17:13                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 19:32                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2006-02-23 19:38                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-23 19:54                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 20:19                                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-23 19:51                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 20:31                                       ` Sam Vilain
2006-02-24  6:43                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-23 21:43                                   ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 19:55                                 ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-26 20:18                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-26 20:40                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 14:18                                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:18                                         ` Mark Wooding
2006-03-02 16:11                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:22                                         ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:20                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 23:17                                   ` NT directory traversal speed on 25K files on Cygwin Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-02-27  1:18                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-27 18:30                                       ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-02-27 18:34                                         ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-27  9:19                                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-02-27 18:45                                       ` Rutger Nijlunsing
2006-03-02 13:40                                         ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 14:10                                   ` [PATCH] fmt-merge-msg: avoid open "-|" list form for Perl 5.6 Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 15:00                                     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:10                                       ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 17:39                                         ` Andreas Ericsson
2006-03-02 22:01                                           ` Alex Riesen
2006-02-26 20:33                               ` Christopher Faylor
2006-02-24 12:02               ` Eric Wong
2006-02-24 13:44                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2006-02-24 16:14                   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-21 20:56       ` Eric Wong
2006-02-21 22:04         ` Alex Riesen
     [not found]           ` <1cf1c57a0602211412r1988b14ao435edd29207dc0d0@mail.gmail.com>
2006-02-21 22:13             ` Ron Parker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-03-02 16:44 Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 16:55 ` Shawn Pearce
2006-03-02 22:09   ` Alex Riesen
2006-03-02 23:27     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  0:34       ` Junio C Hamano
2006-03-03  0:49         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  1:25           ` Junio C Hamano
2006-03-03  1:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2006-03-03  0:14     ` Christopher Faylor
2006-03-02 17:33 ` Johannes Schindelin

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