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From: John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 01/32] Kconfig: introduce and depend on LEGACY_PCI
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2022 17:41:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74bf4fde-3972-1c36-ca04-58089da0d82b@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220105194748.GA215560@bhelgaas>

On 05/01/2022 19:47, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
>>>>>   ok if the PCI maintainers decide otherwise.
>>>> I don't really like the "LEGACY_PCI" Kconfig option.  "Legacy" just
>>>> means something old and out of favor; it doesn't say*what*  that
>>>> something is.
>>>>
>>>> I think you're specifically interested in I/O port space usage, and it
>>>> seems that you want all PCI drivers that*only*  use I/O port space to
>>>> depend on LEGACY_PCI?  Drivers that can use either I/O or memory
>>>> space or both would not depend on LEGACY_PCI?  This seems a little
>>>> murky and error-prone.
>>> I'd like to hear Arnd's opinion on this but you're the PCI maintainer
>>> so of course your buy-in would be quite important for such an option.
> I'd like to hear Arnd's opinion, too.  If we do add LEGACY_PCI, I
> think we need a clear guide for when to use it, e.g., "a PCI driver
> that uses inb() must depend on LEGACY_PCI" or whatever it is.
> 
> I must be missing something because I don't see what we gain from
> this.  We have PCI drivers, e.g., megaraid [1], for devices that have
> either MEM or I/O BARs.  I think we want to build drivers like that on
> any arch that supports PCI.
> 
> If the arch doesn't support I/O port space, devices that only have I/O
> BARs won't work, of course, and hopefully the PCI core and driver can
> figure that out and gracefully fail the probe.
> 
> But that same driver should still work with devices that have MEM
> BARs.  If inb() isn't always present, I guess we could litter these
> drivers with #ifdefs, but that would be pretty ugly. 

There were some ifdefs added to the 8250 drivers in Arnd's original 
patch [0], but it does not seem included here.

Niklas, what happened to the 8250 and the other driver changes?

[0] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAK8P3a0MNbx-iuzW_-=0ab6-TTZzwV-PT_6gAC1Gp5PgYyHcrA@mail.gmail.com/

> IMO inb() should
> be present but do something innocuous like return ~0, as it would if
> I/O port space is supported but there's no device at that address.
> 
> [1]https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/scsi/megaraid.c?id=v5.15#n4210
> 

That driver would prob not be used on systems which does not support 
PIO, and so could have a HAS_IOPORT dependency. But it is not strictly 
necessary.

Anyway, it would be good to have an idea of how much ifdeffery is 
required in drivers.

Thanks,
John

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-06 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-27 16:42 [RFC 00/32] Kconfig: Introduce HAS_IOPORT and LEGACY_PCI options Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 01/32] Kconfig: introduce and depend on LEGACY_PCI Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 17:48   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-12-28  2:09   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28  8:21   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-28  9:15     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28 10:58       ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 12:01         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-28 12:54         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-28 15:06           ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 17:12             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-29 11:45               ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-29 12:12                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-29 16:03                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-29 16:55                     ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-05 17:42                       ` John Garry
2022-01-05 19:47                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-06 17:41                           ` John Garry [this message]
2022-01-06 18:14                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2022-01-07 17:16                               ` John Garry
2022-01-10  9:34                             ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 02/32] Kconfig: introduce HAS_IOPORT option and select it as necessary Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:08   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-29  1:20     ` Michael Schmitz
2021-12-29  3:41       ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-29  4:15         ` Michael Schmitz
2021-12-30  1:48           ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-30  3:44             ` Michael Schmitz
2021-12-31 11:28               ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-31 16:04               ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-31 21:55                 ` Michael Schmitz
2021-12-28 16:32   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 03/32] ACPI: Kconfig: add HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:47   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-12-27 17:02     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 17:12       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-12-27 17:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-12-27 17:43           ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 15:20             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-12-28 16:31               ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 04/32] parport: PC style parport depends on HAS_IOPORT Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:14   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-28 14:21     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-29  2:58     ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 05/32] char: impi, tpm: depend " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-28 12:13     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 06/32] speakup: Kconfig: add HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 17:52   ` Samuel Thibault
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 07/32] Input: gameport: add ISA and " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 08/32] comedi: Kconfig: add " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 09/32] sound: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 10/32] i2c: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:21   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-28 12:13     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 11/32] Input: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 12/32] iio: adc: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:32   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-28 12:50     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 17:01       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-01-30 15:05         ` Jonathan Cameron
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 13/32] hwmon: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 18:07   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-12-27 16:42 ` [RFC 14/32] leds: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 15/32] media: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 16/32] misc: handle " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28  8:15   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 17/32] net: Kconfig: add " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 17:28   ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 18/32] pcmcia: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 18:41   ` Dominik Brodowski
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 19/32] platform: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 20/32] pnp: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 21/32] power: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 22/32] video: handle " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 23/32] rtc: Kconfig: add " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 24/32] scsi: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 10:40   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 25/32] watchdog: " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 18:03   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-12-28  9:58     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 26/32] drm: handle " Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-03  6:11   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 27/32] PCI/sysfs: make I/O resource depend on HAS_IOPORT Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 22:04   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 28/32] PCI: make quirk using inw() " Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 22:33   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-28 15:25     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 16:35       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-28 16:52         ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28 17:28           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 29/32] firmware: dmi-sysfs: handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 30/32] /dev/port: don't compile file operations without CONFIG_DEVPORT Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-28  8:17   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-29 10:25     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-29 10:38       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-30 16:19         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 31/32] usb: handle HAS_IOPORT dependencies Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-27 20:36   ` Alan Stern
2021-12-31 11:06     ` Niklas Schnelle
2021-12-31 17:15       ` Alan Stern
2022-01-03 11:35         ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-03 16:15           ` Alan Stern
2021-12-27 16:43 ` [RFC 32/32] asm-generic/io.h: drop inb() etc for HAS_IOPORT=n Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-06 17:45 ` [RFC 00/32] Kconfig: Introduce HAS_IOPORT and LEGACY_PCI options John Garry
2022-01-07  7:21   ` Niklas Schnelle
2022-01-07 16:57     ` John Garry

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