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From: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:13:49 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <90e643ca-de72-2f4c-f4fe-35e06e1a9277@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac1c162c-07d8-6084-44ca-a2c1a4183df2@redhat.com>

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 27.06.23 06:44, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote:
> > 
> >> The MM subsystem is trying to shrink struct page. This patchset
> >> introduces a memory descriptor for page table tracking - struct ptdesc.
> > ...
> >>   39 files changed, 686 insertions(+), 455 deletions(-)
> > 
> > I don't see the point of this patchset: to me it is just obfuscation of
> > the present-day tight relationship between page table and struct page.
> > 
> > Matthew already explained:
> > 
> >> The intent is to get ptdescs to be dynamically allocated at some point
> >> in the ~2-3 years out future when we have finished the folio project ...
> > 
> > So in a kindly mood, I'd say that this patchset is ahead of its time.
> > But I can certainly adapt to it, if everyone else sees some point to it.
> 
> I share your thoughts, that code churn which will help eventually in the far,
> far future (not wanting to sound too pessimistic, but it's not going to be
> there tomorrow ;) ).
> 
> However, if it's just the same as the other conversions we already did (e.g.,
> struct slab), then I guess there is no reason to stop now -- the obfuscation
> already happened.
> 
> ... or is there a difference regarding this conversion and the previous ones?

I was aware of the struct slab thing, didn't see much point there myself
either; but it was welcomed by Vlastimil, and barely affected outside of
slab allocators, so I had no reason to object.

You think that if a little unnecessary churn (a *lot* of churn if you
include folios, which did save some repeated calls to compound_head())
has already occurred, that's a good precedent for allowing more and more?
My opinion happens to differ on that.

Hugh

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-27 20:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-27  3:13 [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:13 ` [PATCH v6 01/33] mm: Add PAGE_TYPE_OP folio functions Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/33] s390: Use _pt_s390_gaddr for gmap address tracking Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 03/33] pgtable: Create struct ptdesc Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27 16:07   ` Peter Xu
2023-06-27 17:51     ` Vishal Moola
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 04/33] mm: add utility functions for ptdesc Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 05/33] mm: Convert pmd_pgtable_page() to pmd_ptdesc() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 06/33] mm: Convert ptlock_alloc() to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 07/33] mm: Convert ptlock_ptr() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 08/33] mm: Convert pmd_ptlock_init() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 09/33] mm: Convert ptlock_init() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 10/33] mm: Convert pmd_ptlock_free() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 11/33] mm: Convert ptlock_free() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 12/33] mm: Create ptdesc equivalents for pgtable_{pte,pmd}_page_{ctor,dtor} Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 13/33] powerpc: Convert various functions to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 14/33] x86: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 15/33] s390: Convert various gmap " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 16/33] s390: Convert various pgalloc " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 17/33] mm: Remove page table members from struct page Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 18/33] pgalloc: Convert various functions to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 19/33] arm: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 20/33] arm64: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 21/33] csky: Convert __pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 22/33] hexagon: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 23/33] loongarch: Convert various functions " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 24/33] m68k: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 25/33] mips: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 26/33] nios2: Convert __pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 27/33] openrisc: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 28/33] riscv: Convert alloc_{pmd, pte}_late() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 29/33] sh: Convert pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 30/33] sparc64: Convert various functions " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 31/33] sparc: Convert pgtable_pte_page_{ctor, dtor}() to ptdesc equivalents Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 32/33] um: Convert {pmd, pte}_free_tlb() to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 33/33] mm: Remove pgtable_{pmd, pte}_page_{ctor, dtor}() wrappers Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page Hugh Dickins
2023-06-27  7:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-27 20:13     ` Hugh Dickins [this message]
2023-06-28  7:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-28 18:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-27 15:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-27 20:25     ` Hugh Dickins

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