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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: "Vishal Moola (Oracle)" <vishal.moola@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2023 16:57:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZJsG3oMF+FaH0iMw@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8992eee-4140-427e-bacb-9449f346318@google.com>

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 09:44:08PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jun 2023, Vishal Moola (Oracle) wrote:
> 
> > The MM subsystem is trying to shrink struct page. This patchset
> > introduces a memory descriptor for page table tracking - struct ptdesc.
> ...
> >  39 files changed, 686 insertions(+), 455 deletions(-)
> 
> I don't see the point of this patchset: to me it is just obfuscation of
> the present-day tight relationship between page table and struct page.
> 
> Matthew already explained:
> 
> > The intent is to get ptdescs to be dynamically allocated at some point
> > in the ~2-3 years out future when we have finished the folio project ...
> 
> So in a kindly mood, I'd say that this patchset is ahead of its time.
> But I can certainly adapt to it, if everyone else sees some point to it.

If you think this patchset is ahead of its time, we can certainly put
it on hold.  We're certainly prepared to redo it to be merged after your
current patch series.

I think you can see the advantage of the destination, so I don't think
you're against that.  Are you opposed to the sequencing of the work to
get us there?  I'd be happy to discuss another way to do it.

For example, we could dynamically allocate ptdescs right now.  We'd get
the benefit of having an arbitrary amount of space in the ptdesc,
although not the benefit of a smaller memmap until everything else is
also dynamically allocated.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-27 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-27  3:13 [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:13 ` [PATCH v6 01/33] mm: Add PAGE_TYPE_OP folio functions Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/33] s390: Use _pt_s390_gaddr for gmap address tracking Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 03/33] pgtable: Create struct ptdesc Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27 16:07   ` Peter Xu
2023-06-27 17:51     ` Vishal Moola
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 04/33] mm: add utility functions for ptdesc Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 05/33] mm: Convert pmd_pgtable_page() to pmd_ptdesc() Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 06/33] mm: Convert ptlock_alloc() to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 07/33] mm: Convert ptlock_ptr() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 08/33] mm: Convert pmd_ptlock_init() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 09/33] mm: Convert ptlock_init() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 10/33] mm: Convert pmd_ptlock_free() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 11/33] mm: Convert ptlock_free() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 12/33] mm: Create ptdesc equivalents for pgtable_{pte,pmd}_page_{ctor,dtor} Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 13/33] powerpc: Convert various functions to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 14/33] x86: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 15/33] s390: Convert various gmap " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 16/33] s390: Convert various pgalloc " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 17/33] mm: Remove page table members from struct page Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 18/33] pgalloc: Convert various functions to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 19/33] arm: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 20/33] arm64: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 21/33] csky: Convert __pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 22/33] hexagon: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 23/33] loongarch: Convert various functions " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 24/33] m68k: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 25/33] mips: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 26/33] nios2: Convert __pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 27/33] openrisc: " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 28/33] riscv: Convert alloc_{pmd, pte}_late() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 29/33] sh: Convert pte_free_tlb() " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 30/33] sparc64: Convert various functions " Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 31/33] sparc: Convert pgtable_pte_page_{ctor, dtor}() to ptdesc equivalents Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 32/33] um: Convert {pmd, pte}_free_tlb() to use ptdescs Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  3:14 ` [PATCH v6 33/33] mm: Remove pgtable_{pmd, pte}_page_{ctor, dtor}() wrappers Vishal Moola (Oracle)
2023-06-27  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 00/33] Split ptdesc from struct page Hugh Dickins
2023-06-27  7:14   ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-27 20:13     ` Hugh Dickins
2023-06-28  7:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2023-06-28 18:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-06-27 15:57   ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-06-27 20:25     ` Hugh Dickins

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