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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Alexander Aring <alex.aring@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>,
	linux-wpan - ML <linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
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	Xue Liu <liuxuenetmail@gmail.com>, Alan Ott <alan@signal11.us>,
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	Romuald Despres <romuald.despres@qorvo.com>,
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Subject: Re: [wpan-next v2 08/27] net: ieee802154: Drop symbol duration settings when the core does it already
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:38:33 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220118113833.0185f564@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAB_54W4rqXxSrTY=fqbt6o41a2SAEY_suqyqZ3hymheCgzRqTQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Alexander,

> > > btw:
> > > Also for testing with hwsim and the missing features which currently
> > > exist. Can we implement some user space test program which replies
> > > (active scan) or sends periodically something out via AF_PACKET raw
> > > and a monitor interface that should work to test if it is working?  
> >
> > We already have all this handled, no need for extra software. You can
> > test active and passive scans between two hwsim devices already:
> >
> > # iwpan dev wpan0 beacons send interval 15
> > # iwpan dev wpan1 scan type active duration 1
> > # iwpan dev wpan0 beacons stop
> >
> > or
> >
> > # iwpan dev wpan0 beacons send interval 1
> > # iwpan dev wpan1 scan type passive duration 2
> > # iwpan dev wpan0 beacons stop
> >  
> > > Ideally we could do that very easily with scapy (not sure about their
> > > _upstream_ 802.15.4 support). I hope I got that right that there is
> > > still something missing but we could fake it in such a way (just for
> > > hwsim testing).  
> >
> > I hope the above will match your expectations.
> >  
> 
> I need to think and read more about... in my mind is currently the
> following question: are not coordinators broadcasting that information
> only? Means, isn't that a job for a coordinator?

My understanding right now:
- The spec states that coordinators only can send beacons and perform
  scans.
- I don't yet have the necessary infrastructure to give coordinators
  more rights than regular devices or RFDs (but 40+ patches already,
  don't worry this is something we have in mind)
- Right now this is the user to decide whether a device might answer
  beacon requests or not. This will soon become more limited but it
  greatly simplifies the logic for now.

Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-18 10:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-12 17:32 [wpan-next v2 00/27] IEEE 802.15.4 scan support Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 01/27] net: mac802154: Split the set channel hook implementation Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:30   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 22:53     ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 11:12       ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13  9:32     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:27       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 02/27] net: mac802154: Ensure proper channel selection at probe time Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 03/27] net: ieee802154: Improve the way supported channels are declared Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 04/27] net: ieee802154: Give more details to the core about the channel configurations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 05/27] net: mac802154: Convert the symbol duration into nanoseconds Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 06/27] net: mac802154: Set the symbol duration automatically Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:25   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13  9:52     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:36   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 10:18     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 07/27] net: ieee802154: hwsim: Ensure frame checksum are valid Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 08/27] net: ieee802154: Drop symbol duration settings when the core does it already Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:26   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 11:16     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:34       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 10:21         ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 23:21           ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17  9:12             ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-17 23:38               ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-18 10:38                 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2022-01-18 22:43                   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-19 22:26                     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-19 23:26                       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 09/27] net: ieee802154: Move IEEE 802.15.4 Kconfig main entry Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 10/27] net: mac802154: Include the softMAC stack inside the IEEE 802.15.4 menu Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 11/27] net: ieee802154: Move the address structure earlier Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 12/27] net: ieee802154: Add a kernel doc header to the ieee802154_addr structure Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 13/27] net: ieee802154: Return meaningful error codes from the netlink helpers Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 14/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for internal PAN management Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 15/27] net: ieee802154: Define a beacon frame header Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 16/27] net: ieee802154: Define frame types Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 17/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for scanning requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 18/27] net: mac802154: Handle scan requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:44   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 17:07     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14  0:01       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 18:44         ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 22:44           ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-16 22:50             ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17  9:00             ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 19/27] net: ieee802154: Full PAN management Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 20/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for beacon requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 21/27] net: mac802154: Handle beacons requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 22/27] net: ieee802154: Trace the registration of new PANs Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 23/27] net: mac802154: Add support for active scans Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 23:16   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 17:14     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14  0:30       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14  0:39         ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 24/27] net: mac802154: Add support for processing beacon requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 25/27] net: mac802154: Inform device drivers about scans Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 26/27] net: mac802154: Inform device drivers about beacon operations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 27/27] net: ieee802154: ca8210: Refuse most of the scan operations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:48   ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13  9:29     ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14  1:00       ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 18:37         ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 22:48           ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17  9:04             ` Miquel Raynal

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