From: Alexander Aring <alex.aring@gmail.com>
To: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
Cc: Stefan Schmidt <stefan@datenfreihafen.org>,
linux-wpan - ML <linux-wpan@vger.kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [wpan-next v2 18/27] net: mac802154: Handle scan requests
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 19:01:56 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAB_54W4LdzH9=XS7-ZnxfyCMQFCTS-F5JkUmV+6HtWcCpUS-nQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220113180709.0dade123@xps13>
Hi,
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 at 12:07, Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexander,
>
> alex.aring@gmail.com wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:44:02 -0500:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 12:33, Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > > + return 0;
> > > +}
> > > diff --git a/net/mac802154/tx.c b/net/mac802154/tx.c
> > > index c829e4a75325..40656728c624 100644
> > > --- a/net/mac802154/tx.c
> > > +++ b/net/mac802154/tx.c
> > > @@ -54,6 +54,9 @@ ieee802154_tx(struct ieee802154_local *local, struct sk_buff *skb)
> > > struct net_device *dev = skb->dev;
> > > int ret;
> > >
> > > + if (unlikely(mac802154_scan_is_ongoing(local)))
> > > + return NETDEV_TX_BUSY;
> > > +
> >
> > Please look into the functions "ieee802154_wake_queue()" and
> > "ieee802154_stop_queue()" which prevent this function from being
> > called. Call stop before starting scanning and wake after scanning is
> > done or stopped.
>
> Mmmh all this is already done, isn't it?
> - mac802154_trigger_scan_locked() stops the queue before setting the
> promiscuous mode
> - mac802154_end_of_scan() wakes the queue after resetting the
> promiscuous mode to its original state
>
> Should I drop the check which stands for an extra precaution?
>
no, I think then it should be a WARN_ON() more without any return
(hopefully it will survive). This case should never happen otherwise
we have a bug that we wake the queue when we "took control about
transmissions" only.
Change the name, I think it will be in future not only scan related.
Maybe "mac802154_queue_stopped()". Everything which is queued from
socket/upperlayer(6lowpan) goes this way.
>
> But overall I think I don't understand well this part. What is
> a bit foggy to me is why the (async) tx implementation does:
>
> *Core* *Driver*
>
> stop_queue()
> drv_async_xmit() -------
> \------> do something
> ------- calls ieee802154_xmit_complete()
> wakeup_queue() <--------/
>
> So we actually disable the queue for transmitting. Why??
>
Because all transceivers have either _one_ transmit framebuffer or one
framebuffer for transmit and receive one time. We need to report to
stop giving us more skb's while we are busy with one to transmit.
This all will/must be changed in future if there is hardware outside
which is more powerful and the driver needs to control the flow here.
That ieee802154_xmit_complete() calls wakeup_queue need to be
forbidden when we are in "synchronous transmit mode"/the queue is
stopped. The synchronous transmit mode is not for any hotpath, it's
for MLME and I think we also need a per phy lock to avoid multiple
synchronous transmissions at one time. Please note that I don't think
here only about scan operation, also for other possible MLME-ops.
> > Also there exists a race which exists in your way and also the one
> > mentioned above. There can still be some transmissions going on... We
> > need to wait until "all possible" tx completions are done... to be
> > sure there are really no transmissions going on. However we need to be
> > sure that a wake cannot be done if a tx completion is done, we need to
> > avoid it when the scan operation is ongoing as a workaround for this
> > race.
> >
> > This race exists and should be fixed in future work?
>
> Yep, this is true, do you have any pointers? Because I looked at the
> code and for now it appears quite unpractical to add some kind of
> flushing mechanism on that net queue. I believe we cannot use the netif
> interface for that so we would have to implement our own mechanism in
> the ieee802154 core.
yes, we need some kind of "wait_for_completion()" and "complete()". We
are currently lucky that we allow only one skb to be transmitted at
one time. I think it is okay to put that on a per phy basis...
- Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-14 0:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-12 17:32 [wpan-next v2 00/27] IEEE 802.15.4 scan support Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 01/27] net: mac802154: Split the set channel hook implementation Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:30 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 22:53 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 11:12 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 9:32 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:27 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 02/27] net: mac802154: Ensure proper channel selection at probe time Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 03/27] net: ieee802154: Improve the way supported channels are declared Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 04/27] net: ieee802154: Give more details to the core about the channel configurations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 05/27] net: mac802154: Convert the symbol duration into nanoseconds Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 06/27] net: mac802154: Set the symbol duration automatically Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:25 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 9:52 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:36 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 10:18 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 07/27] net: ieee802154: hwsim: Ensure frame checksum are valid Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 08/27] net: ieee802154: Drop symbol duration settings when the core does it already Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:26 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 11:16 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-13 23:34 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 10:21 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 23:21 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17 9:12 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-17 23:38 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-18 10:38 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-18 22:43 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-19 22:26 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-19 23:26 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 09/27] net: ieee802154: Move IEEE 802.15.4 Kconfig main entry Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 10/27] net: mac802154: Include the softMAC stack inside the IEEE 802.15.4 menu Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 11/27] net: ieee802154: Move the address structure earlier Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 12/27] net: ieee802154: Add a kernel doc header to the ieee802154_addr structure Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 13/27] net: ieee802154: Return meaningful error codes from the netlink helpers Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:32 ` [wpan-next v2 14/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for internal PAN management Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 15/27] net: ieee802154: Define a beacon frame header Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 16/27] net: ieee802154: Define frame types Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 17/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for scanning requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 18/27] net: mac802154: Handle scan requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:44 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 17:07 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14 0:01 ` Alexander Aring [this message]
2022-01-14 18:44 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 22:44 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-16 22:50 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17 9:00 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 19/27] net: ieee802154: Full PAN management Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 20/27] net: ieee802154: Add support for beacon requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 21/27] net: mac802154: Handle beacons requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 22/27] net: ieee802154: Trace the registration of new PANs Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 23/27] net: mac802154: Add support for active scans Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 23:16 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 17:14 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14 0:30 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 0:39 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 24/27] net: mac802154: Add support for processing beacon requests Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 25/27] net: mac802154: Inform device drivers about scans Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 26/27] net: mac802154: Inform device drivers about beacon operations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 17:33 ` [wpan-next v2 27/27] net: ieee802154: ca8210: Refuse most of the scan operations Miquel Raynal
2022-01-12 22:48 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-13 9:29 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-14 1:00 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-14 18:37 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-01-16 22:48 ` Alexander Aring
2022-01-17 9:04 ` Miquel Raynal
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