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From: Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: "Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Sergey Senozhatsky" <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Wedson Almeida Filho" <wedsonaf@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/1] Integer overflows while scanning for integers
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2023 12:10:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9cd596d9-0ecb-29fc-fe18-f19b86a5ba44@rasmusvillemoes.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZIHzbBXlxEz6As9N@alley>

On 08/06/2023 17.27, Petr Mladek wrote:
> On Wed 2023-06-07 16:36:12, Kees Cook wrote:

> It seems that userspace implementation of sscanf() and vsscanf()
> returns -ERANGE in this case. It might be a reasonable solution.

Well. _Some_ userspace implementation does that. It's not in POSIX.
While "man scanf" lists that ERANGE error, it also explicitly says that:

CONFORMING TO
       The functions fscanf(), scanf(), and sscanf() conform to C89 and
C99 and POSIX.1-2001.  These standards do  not  specify  the
       ERANGE error.

I can't figure out what POSIX actually says should or could happen with
sscanf("99999999999999", "%i", &x);


> Well, there is a risk of introducing security problems. The error
> value might cause an underflow/overflow when the caller does not expect
> a negative value.

There is absolutely no way we can start letting sscanf() return a
negative err value, in exactly the same way we cannot possibly let
vsnprintf() do that. We can stop early, possibly with a WARNing if it's
the format string we're unhappy about ('cause that should be
compile-time constant or, e.g. in the netdevice name case, carefully
checked by the caller) and return "number of succesful conversions so
far" (scanf) / "number of bytes written to buffer" (printf).

> Alternative solution would be to update the "ip" code so that it
> reads the number separately and treat zero return value as
> -EINVAL.

The netdev naming code _could_ be updated to just not use scanf at all
or the bitmap of in-use numbers, just do the "sprintf(buf, fmt, i)" in a
loop and stop when the name is not in use. That's a win as long as there
are less than ~256 names already matching the pattern, but the
performance absolutely tanks if there are many more than that. So I
won't actually suggest that.

Rasmus


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-06-09 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-07 22:37 [RFC PATCH 0/1] Integer overflows while scanning for integers Richard Weinberger
2023-06-07 22:37 ` [RFC PATCH 1/1] vsprintf: Warn on integer scanning overflows Richard Weinberger
2023-06-08 14:27   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-08 16:14     ` Richard Weinberger
2023-06-08 16:23       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-06-12  6:16   ` kernel test robot
2023-06-07 23:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/1] Integer overflows while scanning for integers Kees Cook
2023-06-08 15:27   ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-08 16:12     ` Richard Weinberger
2023-06-08 16:19     ` Greg KH
2023-06-08 16:23       ` Richard Weinberger
2023-06-09 10:10     ` Rasmus Villemoes [this message]
2023-06-09 17:02       ` Petr Mladek
2023-06-09 17:46         ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-10 19:31       ` David Laight

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