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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Xiong Y Zhang <xiong.y.zhang@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org,  mizhang@google.com,
	kan.liang@intel.com, zhenyuw@linux.intel.com,
	 dapeng1.mi@linux.intel.com, jmattson@google.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,  linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,  zhiyuan.lv@intel.com,
	eranian@google.com, irogers@google.com,  samantha.alt@intel.com,
	like.xu.linux@gmail.com, chao.gao@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 02/41] perf: Support guest enter/exit interfaces
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 09:11:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZiFGRFb45oZrmqnJ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9056f6a2-546b-41fc-a07c-7b86173887db@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, Apr 17, 2024, Xiong Y Zhang wrote:
> On 4/16/2024 8:48 PM, Liang, Kan wrote:
> >> x86_perf_get_mediated_pmu() is called at vm_create(),
> >> x86_perf_put_mediated_pmu() is called at vm_destroy(), then system wide
> >> perf events without exclude_guest=1 can not be created during the whole vm
> >> life cycle (where nr_mediated_pmu_vms > 0 always), do I understand and use
> >> the interface correctly ?
> > 
> > Right, but it only impacts the events of PMU with the
> > PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU.  For other PMUs, the event with exclude_guest=1
> > can still be created.  KVM should not touch the counters of the PMU without
> > PERF_PMU_CAP_MEDIATED_VPMU.
> > 
> > BTW: I will also remove the prefix x86, since the functions are in the
> > generic code.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Kan
> After userspace VMM call VCPU SET_CPUID() ioctl, KVM knows whether vPMU is
> enabled or not. If perf_get_mediated_pmu() is called at vm create, it is too
> early.

Eh, if someone wants to create _only_ VMs without vPMUs, then they should load
KVM with enable_pmu=false.  I can see people complaining about not being able to
create VMs if they don't want to use have *any* vPMU usage, but I doubt anyone
has a use cases where they want a mix of PMU-enabled and PMU- disabled VMs, *and*
they are ok with VM creation failing for some VMs but not others.

> it is better to let perf_get_mediated_pmu() track per cpu PMU state,
> so perf_get_mediated_pmu() can be called by kvm after vcpu_cpuid_set(). Note
> user space vmm may call SET_CPUID() on one vcpu multi times, then here
> refcount maybe isn't suitable. 

Yeah, waiting until KVM_SET_CPUID2 would be unpleasant for both KVM and userspace.
E.g. failing KVM_SET_CPUID2 because KVM can't enable mediated PMU support would
be rather confusing for userspace.

> what's a better solution ?

If doing the checks at VM creation is a stick point for folks, then the best
approach is probably to use KVM_CAP_PMU_CAPABILITY, i.e. require userspace to
explicitly opt-in to enabling mediated PMU usage.  Ha!  We can even do that
without additional uAPI, because KVM interprets cap->args[0]==0 as "enable vPMU".

The big problem with this is that enabling mediated PMU support by default would
break userspace.  Hmm, but that's arguably the case no matter what, as a setup
that worked before would suddenly start failing if the host was configured to use
the PMU-based NMI watchdog.

E.g. this, if we're ok commiting to never enabling mediated PMU by default.

diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
index 47d9f03b7778..01d9ee2114c8 100644
--- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
+++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
@@ -6664,9 +6664,21 @@ int kvm_vm_ioctl_enable_cap(struct kvm *kvm,
                        break;
 
                mutex_lock(&kvm->lock);
-               if (!kvm->created_vcpus) {
-                       kvm->arch.enable_pmu = !(cap->args[0] & KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE);
-                       r = 0;
+               /*
+                * To keep PMU configuration "simple", setting vPMU support is
+                * disallowed if vCPUs are created, or if mediated PMU support
+                * was already enabled for the VM.
+                */
+               if (!kvm->created_vcpus &&
+                   (!enable_mediated_pmu || !kvm->arch.enable_pmu)) {
+                       if (enable_mediated_pmu &&
+                           !(cap->args[0] & KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE))
+                               r = x86_perf_get_mediated_pmu();
+                       else
+                               r = 0;
+
+                       if (!r)
+                               kvm->arch.enable_pmu = !(cap->args[0] & KVM_PMU_CAP_DISABLE);
                }
                mutex_unlock(&kvm->lock);
                break;
@@ -12563,7 +12575,9 @@ int kvm_arch_init_vm(struct kvm *kvm, unsigned long type)
 
        kvm->arch.default_tsc_khz = max_tsc_khz ? : tsc_khz;
        kvm->arch.guest_can_read_msr_platform_info = true;
-       kvm->arch.enable_pmu = enable_pmu;
+
+       /* PMU virtualization is opt-in when mediated PMU support is enabled. */
+       kvm->arch.enable_pmu = enable_pmu && !enable_mediated_pmu;
 
 #if IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HYPERV)
        spin_lock_init(&kvm->arch.hv_root_tdp_lock);


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-18 16:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26  8:54 [RFC PATCH 00/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce passthrough vPM Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 01/41] perf: x86/intel: Support PERF_PMU_CAP_VPMU_PASSTHROUGH Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 17:04   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 17:21     ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-11 17:24       ` Jim Mattson
2024-04-11 17:46         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 19:13           ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-11 20:43             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 21:04               ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-11 19:32           ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 02/41] perf: Support guest enter/exit interfaces Xiong Zhang
2024-03-20 16:40   ` Raghavendra Rao Ananta
2024-03-20 17:12     ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-11 18:06   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 19:53     ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-12 19:17       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12 20:56         ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-15 16:03           ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-16  5:34             ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-16 12:48               ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-17  9:42                 ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-18 16:11                   ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2024-04-19  1:37                     ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-26  4:09       ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 03/41] perf: Set exclude_guest onto nmi_watchdog Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 18:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 04/41] perf: core/x86: Add support to register a new vector for PMI handling Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 17:10   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 19:05     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12  3:56     ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-13  1:17       ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 05/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Register PMI handler for passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 19:07   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12  5:44     ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 06/41] perf: x86: Add function to switch PMI handler Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 19:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 19:34     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12  6:03       ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-12  5:57     ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 07/41] perf/x86: Add interface to reflect virtual LVTPC_MASK bit onto HW Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 19:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12  6:17     ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 08/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Add get virtual LVTPC_MASK bit function Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 19:22   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 09/41] perf: core/x86: Forbid PMI handler when guest own PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 19:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 10/41] perf: core/x86: Plumb passthrough PMU capability from x86_pmu to x86_pmu_cap Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 11/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce enable_passthrough_pmu module parameter and propage to KVM instance Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 20:54   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 21:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 12/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Plumb through passthrough PMU to vcpu for Intel CPUs Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 20:57   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 13/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Add a helper to check if passthrough PMU is enabled Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 14/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Allow RDPMC pass through Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 15/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Manage MSR interception for IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 22:30     ` Jim Mattson
2024-04-11 23:27       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  2:10       ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 16/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Create a function prototype to disable MSR interception Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 17/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Implement pmu function for Intel CPU " Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 18/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Intercept full-width GP counter MSRs by checking with perf capabilities Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:23   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 21:50     ` Jim Mattson
2024-04-12 16:01       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 19/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Whitelist PMU MSRs for passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 20/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce PMU operation prototypes for save/restore PMU context Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 21/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce function prototype for Intel CPU to " Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 22/41] x86: Introduce MSR_CORE_PERF_GLOBAL_STATUS_SET for passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 23/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Implement the save/restore of PMU state for Intel CPU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:26   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  2:29     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-11 21:44   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 22:19     ` Jim Mattson
2024-04-11 23:31       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  3:19         ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-13  3:03     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-13  3:34       ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-13  4:25         ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-15  6:06           ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-15 10:04             ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-15 16:44               ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-15 17:38                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-15 17:54                   ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-15 22:45                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-22  2:14                       ` maobibo
2024-04-22 17:01                         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-23  1:01                           ` maobibo
2024-04-23  2:44                             ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-23  2:53                               ` maobibo
2024-04-23  3:13                                 ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-23  3:26                                   ` maobibo
2024-04-23  3:59                                     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-23  3:55                                   ` maobibo
2024-04-23  4:23                                     ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-23  6:08                                       ` maobibo
2024-04-23  6:45                                         ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-23  7:10                                           ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-23  8:24                                             ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-23  8:51                                               ` maobibo
2024-04-23 16:50                                               ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-23 12:12                                       ` maobibo
2024-04-23 17:02                                         ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-24  1:07                                           ` maobibo
2024-04-24  8:18                                           ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-24 15:00                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-25  3:55                                               ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-25  4:24                                                 ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-25 16:13                                                   ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-25 20:16                                                     ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-25 20:43                                                       ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-25 21:46                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-26  1:46                                                           ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-26  3:12                                                             ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-26  4:02                                                               ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-26  4:46                                                                 ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-26 14:09                                                               ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-26 18:41                                                                 ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-26 19:06                                                                   ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-26 19:46                                                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-27  3:04                                                                       ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-28  0:58                                                                         ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-28  6:01                                                                           ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-29 17:44                                                                             ` Sean Christopherson
2024-05-01 17:43                                                                               ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-05-01 18:00                                                                                 ` Liang, Kan
2024-05-01 20:36                                                                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-29 13:08                                                                         ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-26 13:53                                                           ` Liang, Kan
2024-04-26  1:50                                                         ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-04-18 21:21                   ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-18 21:41                     ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-19  1:02                     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 24/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Zero out unexposed Counters/Selectors to avoid information leakage Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:36   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 21:56     ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 25/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce macro PMU_CAP_PERF_METRICS Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 26/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Add host_perf_cap field in kvm_caps to record host PMU capability Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:49   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 27/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Clear PERF_METRICS MSR for guest Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:50   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  3:29     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 28/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Switch IA32_PERF_GLOBAL_CTRL at VM boundary Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:54   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 22:10     ` Jim Mattson
2024-04-11 22:54       ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 23:08         ` Jim Mattson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 29/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Exclude existing vLBR logic from the passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 30/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Switch PMI handler at KVM context switch boundary Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 31/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Call perf_guest_enter() at PMU context switch Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 32/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Add support for PMU context switch at VM-exit/enter Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 33/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Make check_pmu_event_filter() an exported function Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 34/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Intercept EVENT_SELECT MSR Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:55   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 35/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Allow writing to event selector for GP counters if event is allowed Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 36/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Intercept FIXED_CTR_CTRL MSR Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 21:56   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 37/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Allow writing to fixed counter selector if counter is exposed Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 22:03   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-13  4:12     ` Mi, Dapeng
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 38/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce PMU helper to increment counter Xiong Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 39/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Implement emulated counter increment for passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 23:12   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 23:17     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 40/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Separate passthrough PMU logic in set/get_msr() from non-passthrough vPMU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 23:18   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-18 21:54     ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-01-26  8:54 ` [RFC PATCH 41/41] KVM: nVMX: Add nested virtualization support for passthrough PMU Xiong Zhang
2024-04-11 23:21   ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 17:03 ` [RFC PATCH 00/41] KVM: x86/pmu: Introduce passthrough vPM Sean Christopherson
2024-04-12  2:19   ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-12 18:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-15  1:06       ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-15 15:05         ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-16  5:11           ` Zhang, Xiong Y
2024-04-18 20:46   ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-18 21:52     ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-19 19:14     ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-19 22:02       ` Mingwei Zhang
2024-04-11 23:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-04-11 23:56   ` Mingwei Zhang

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