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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v8 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers
Date: Wed, 8 May 2024 12:58:13 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240508155813.GS4718@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6f69694b-4281-45a6-92aa-d9d72b918df2@gmail.com>

On Wed, May 08, 2024 at 04:44:32PM +0100, Pavel Begunkov wrote:

> > like a weird and indirect way to get there. Why can't io_uring just be
> > the entity that does the final free and not mess with the logic
> > allocator?
> 
> Then the user has to do a syscall (e.g. via io_uring) to return pages,
> and there we'd need to care how to put the pages efficiently, i.e.
> hitting the page pool's fast path, e.g. by hoping napi is scheduled and
> scheduled for the CPU we're running on, or maybe transferring the pages
> to the right CPU first.
> 
> Compare it with userspace putting pages into a ring, and the allocator
> taking from there when needed without any extra synchronisation and
> hassle just because it's a sole consumer.

Wow, that sounds a bit terrifying for security, but I guess I can see
your point.

You are replacing the whole allocator logic if you are effectively
putting the free list in userspace memory.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-08 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03  0:20 [RFC PATCH net-next v8 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 01/14] queue_api: define queue api Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2024-05-01  7:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-03 20:10     ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-06 12:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:05         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 16:18           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 16:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:42               ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-07 16:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 17:19                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 17:25                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:56                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 19:35                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 23:32                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08  7:16                           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 11:35                             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 15:34                               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 15:51                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 17:02                                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-09  4:49                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 11:30                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 14:25                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08 15:44                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 15:58                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-05-08 16:13                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:17                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 16:55               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:15                 ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-07 17:34                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 03/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 04/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-04-24 17:35   ` David Wei
2024-04-24 22:11     ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 05/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 06/14] page_pool: convert to use netmem Mina Almasry
2024-04-03 17:27   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 07/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-04-27  0:17   ` David Wei
2024-04-27  2:11     ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-30 13:31       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-04-30 13:45       ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-30 18:29         ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-30 18:55           ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-30 19:19             ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-01 13:58             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2024-05-01  7:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-06  0:29       ` David Wei
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 08/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 09/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 10/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 11/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 12/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 13/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-05-03 13:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 14/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 15:57   ` Cong Wang

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