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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Mina Almasry <almasrymina@google.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v8 07/14] page_pool: devmem support
Date: Wed, 1 May 2024 15:58:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <779b9542-4170-483a-af54-ca0dd471f774@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11f52113-7b67-4b45-ba1d-29b070050cec@kernel.dk>



On 30/04/2024 20.55, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 4/30/24 12:29 PM, Mina Almasry wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 6:46?AM Jens Axboe<axboe@kernel.dk>  wrote:
[...]
>>> In general, attempting to hide overhead behind config options is always
>>> a losing proposition. It merely serves to say "look, if these things
>>> aren't enabled, the overhead isn't there", while distros blindly enable
>>> pretty much everything and then you're back where you started.
>>>
>> The history there is that this check adds 1 cycle regression to the
>> page_pool fast path benchmark. The regression last I measured is 8->9
>> cycles, so in % wise it's a quite significant 12.5% (more details in
>> the cover letter[1]). I doubt I can do much better than that to be
>> honest.
>
> I'm all for cycle counting, and do it myself too, but is that even
> measurable in anything that isn't a super targeted microbenchmark? Or
> even in that?

The reason for page_pool fast path being critical is that it is used for 
the XDP_DROP use-case.
E.g on Mellanox mlx5 driver we see 24 Mpps XDP_DROP, which is approx 42 
nanosec per packet. Adding 9 nanosec will reduce this to 19.6 Mpps.

   1/(42+9)*10^9 = 19607843

--Jesper

p.s. Upstreaming my PP microbenchmark[1] is still at the bottom of my 
todo-list.
  [1] 
https://github.com/netoptimizer/prototype-kernel/blob/master/kernel/lib/bench_page_pool_simple.c

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-01 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-03  0:20 [RFC PATCH net-next v8 00/14] Device Memory TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 01/14] queue_api: define queue api Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 02/14] net: page_pool: create hooks for custom page providers Mina Almasry
2024-05-01  7:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-03 20:10     ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-06 12:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:05         ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 16:18           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 16:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-07 16:42               ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-07 16:48                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 17:19                   ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-07 17:25                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:56                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-07 19:35                       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 23:32                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08  7:16                           ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 11:35                             ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 15:34                               ` Daniel Vetter
2024-05-08 15:51                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 17:02                                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-09  4:49                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-08 11:30                           ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 14:25                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08 15:44                               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-08 15:58                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-05-08 16:13                                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:17                 ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 16:55               ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-05-07 17:15                 ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-07 17:34                   ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 03/14] net: netdev netlink api to bind dma-buf to a net device Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 04/14] netdev: support binding dma-buf to netdevice Mina Almasry
2024-04-24 17:35   ` David Wei
2024-04-24 22:11     ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 05/14] netdev: netdevice devmem allocator Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 06/14] page_pool: convert to use netmem Mina Almasry
2024-04-03 17:27   ` Simon Horman
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 07/14] page_pool: devmem support Mina Almasry
2024-04-27  0:17   ` David Wei
2024-04-27  2:11     ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-30 13:31       ` Pavel Begunkov
2024-04-30 13:45       ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-30 18:29         ` Mina Almasry
2024-04-30 18:55           ` Jens Axboe
2024-04-30 19:19             ` Mina Almasry
2024-05-01 13:58             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2024-05-01  7:55     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-05-06  0:29       ` David Wei
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 08/14] memory-provider: dmabuf devmem memory provider Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 09/14] net: support non paged skb frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 10/14] net: add support for skbs with unreadable frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 11/14] tcp: RX path for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 12/14] net: add SO_DEVMEM_DONTNEED setsockopt to release RX frags Mina Almasry
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 13/14] net: add devmem TCP documentation Mina Almasry
2024-05-03 13:14   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2024-04-03  0:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v8 14/14] selftests: add ncdevmem, netcat for devmem TCP Mina Almasry
2024-04-08 15:57   ` Cong Wang

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