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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:38:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510062.S45KkZCs96@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdb=t21=qpqar5VXd4mtqTWrq6MvoX1OsVgmWpkyFqhj3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Wednesday 15 July 2015 11:00:59 Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> 
> > This binding differs from that of Linux. Update it and change existing
> > users.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
> 
> I'm confused by this. Isn't devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org the place to discuss
> device tree bindings? This is sent only to the U-Boot list, does this mean
> that there will now be *two* ontologies for DT bindings? That sounds like
> a recepie for ... something not good.
> 
> > +- clock-frequency:
> > +          Input clock frequency for UART.
> 
> This is the real trick is it not?
> 
> Is the real commit blurb for this patch something like:
> 
> "we want a simple way to look up the clock frequency for our serial
> ports during early boot, and following clocks = <&...> phandles
> is too much trouble and might imply having to implement a whole
> clock framework in U-Boot so we just see a lot of trouble, instead
> provide a default frequency here"
> 
> I suggest in that case, instead do this:
> 
> - boot-frequency:
>     input clock frequency at boot time, to be used by boot loaders
>     and other early access.
> 
> This would be good for early Linux stuff as well I believe and I
> do not think it's very controversial.

The CHRP ISA binding defines that a 8250 compatible UART must have this
property:

  "clock-frequency" S

  Standard property, encoded as with encode-int, that shall be the baud-rate
  generator's clock input frequency (in hertz).
  Typically, the clock frequency is nominally 1,843,200 Hz. Some devices
  generate the baud rate input clock by dividing a higher-frequency clock 
  source that is not an exact multiple of 1,843,200 Hz, resulting in a
  small but acceptable error in the nominal clock frequency. In such cases,
  the "clock-frequency" shall report the actual nominal frequency. For
  example, if the baud rate input clock is generated by dividing a 24
  MHz clock by 13, the value of the "clock-frequency" property shall be 1846153.
	
	Arnd
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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 11:38:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1510062.S45KkZCs96@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACRpkdb=t21=qpqar5VXd4mtqTWrq6MvoX1OsVgmWpkyFqhj3w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wednesday 15 July 2015 11:00:59 Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 4:53 AM, Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
> > This binding differs from that of Linux. Update it and change existing
> > users.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Simon Glass <sjg@chromium.org>
> 
> I'm confused by this. Isn't devicetree at vger.kernel.org the place to discuss
> device tree bindings? This is sent only to the U-Boot list, does this mean
> that there will now be *two* ontologies for DT bindings? That sounds like
> a recepie for ... something not good.
> 
> > +- clock-frequency:
> > +          Input clock frequency for UART.
> 
> This is the real trick is it not?
> 
> Is the real commit blurb for this patch something like:
> 
> "we want a simple way to look up the clock frequency for our serial
> ports during early boot, and following clocks = <&...> phandles
> is too much trouble and might imply having to implement a whole
> clock framework in U-Boot so we just see a lot of trouble, instead
> provide a default frequency here"
> 
> I suggest in that case, instead do this:
> 
> - boot-frequency:
>     input clock frequency at boot time, to be used by boot loaders
>     and other early access.
> 
> This would be good for early Linux stuff as well I believe and I
> do not think it's very controversial.

The CHRP ISA binding defines that a 8250 compatible UART must have this
property:

  "clock-frequency" S

  Standard property, encoded as with encode-int, that shall be the baud-rate
  generator's clock input frequency (in hertz).
  Typically, the clock frequency is nominally 1,843,200 Hz. Some devices
  generate the baud rate input clock by dividing a higher-frequency clock 
  source that is not an exact multiple of 1,843,200 Hz, resulting in a
  small but acceptable error in the nominal clock frequency. In such cases,
  the "clock-frequency" shall report the actual nominal frequency. For
  example, if the baud rate input clock is generated by dividing a 24
  MHz clock by 13, the value of the "clock-frequency" property shall be 1846153.
	
	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-08  2:53 [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/20] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 01/20] dm: net: Support usbethaddr environment variable Simon Glass
2015-07-08  4:04   ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-08 20:31     ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08 20:43       ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-08 21:07         ` Simon Glass
2015-07-20 13:56           ` Simon Glass
2015-07-20 18:10             ` Joe Hershberger
2015-07-21 21:25               ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 02/20] dm: usb: Allow USB Ethernet whenever CONFIG_DM_ETH is not defined Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 03/20] dm: usb: Add an errno.h header to usb_ether.c Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:31   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 04/20] dm: usb: Prepare dwc2 driver for driver-model conversion Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:31   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 05/20] dm: usb: Add driver-model support to dwc2 Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 06/20] net: smsc95xx: Sort the include files Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 07/20] net: smsc95xx: Rename AX_RX_URB_SIZE to RX_URB_SIZE Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 08/20] net: smsc95xx: Correct the error numbers Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 09/20] net: smsc95xx: Prepare for conversion to driver model Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 10/20] net: smsc95xx: Add driver-model support Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 11/20] dm: serial: Update binding for PL01x serial UART Simon Glass
2015-07-08 22:00   ` Vikas MANOCHA
     [not found]   ` <1436324032-17931-12-git-send-email-sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  9:00     ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-15  9:00       ` [U-Boot] " Linus Walleij
     [not found]       ` <CACRpkdb=t21=qpqar5VXd4mtqTWrq6MvoX1OsVgmWpkyFqhj3w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15  9:38         ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-07-15  9:38           ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-15 10:08           ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-15 10:08             ` [U-Boot] " Linus Walleij
     [not found]             ` <CACRpkdakAVcBT8phhbFjE+mkfA0pTcHYiaL0dV4UNieH54fd+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-15 10:17               ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-15 10:17                 ` [U-Boot] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-07-16  7:41                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-16  7:41                   ` [U-Boot] " Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-19  7:19                   ` Linus Walleij
2015-10-19  7:19                     ` [U-Boot] " Linus Walleij
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 12/20] dm: Support address translation for simple-bus Simon Glass
2015-07-27 23:32   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 13/20] arm: rpi: Define CONFIG_TFTP_TSIZE to show tftp size info Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 14/20] arm: rpi: Bring in kernel device tree files Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 15/20] arm: rpi: Device tree modifications for U-Boot Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 16/20] arm: rpi: Enable device tree control for Rasberry Pi Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 17/20] arm: rpi: Drop the UART console platform data Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 18/20] arm: rpi: Drop the GPIO " Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 19/20] arm: rpi: Move to driver model for USB Simon Glass
2015-07-08  2:53 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 20/20] arm: rpi: Use driver model for Ethernet Simon Glass
2015-07-11  5:34 ` [U-Boot] [PATCH 00/20] arm: rpi: Enable USB and Ethernet driver model Raspberry Pi Stephen Warren
2015-07-11 14:04   ` Simon Glass
2015-07-14  4:52     ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-14 15:44       ` Simon Glass
2015-07-24  4:17         ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-24 13:44           ` Tom Rini
2015-07-28  3:10             ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-28 13:55               ` Tom Rini
2015-07-28 15:44                 ` Simon Glass
2015-08-01  3:10                   ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-01  3:01                 ` Stephen Warren
2015-07-16 14:10       ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-20 14:25         ` Simon Glass
2015-07-24  4:20         ` Stephen Warren
2015-08-03 23:45 ` Marek Vasut
2015-08-04  0:07   ` Simon Glass
2015-08-04  0:37     ` Marek Vasut

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