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From: Conor Dooley <conor.dooley@microchip.com>
To: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V11 03/17] riscv: Use Zicbop in arch_xchg when available
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 12:37:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230915-removing-flaky-44c66da669ae@wendy> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230914-74d0cf00633c199758ee3450@orel>

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Yo,

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 04:47:18PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 04:25:53PM +0200, Andrew Jones wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 04:28:57AM -0400, guoren@kernel.org wrote:
> > > From: Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > 
> > > Cache-block prefetch instructions are HINTs to the hardware to
> > > indicate that software intends to perform a particular type of
> > > memory access in the near future. Enable ARCH_HAS_PREFETCHW and
> > > improve the arch_xchg for qspinlock xchg_tail.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Guo Ren <guoren@linux.alibaba.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/riscv/Kconfig                 | 15 +++++++++++++++
> > >  arch/riscv/include/asm/cmpxchg.h   |  4 +++-
> > >  arch/riscv/include/asm/hwcap.h     |  1 +
> > >  arch/riscv/include/asm/insn-def.h  |  5 +++++
> > >  arch/riscv/include/asm/processor.h | 13 +++++++++++++
> > >  arch/riscv/kernel/cpufeature.c     |  1 +
> > >  6 files changed, 38 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/riscv/Kconfig b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> > > index e9ae6fa232c3..2c346fe169c1 100644
> > > --- a/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> > > +++ b/arch/riscv/Kconfig
> > > @@ -617,6 +617,21 @@ config RISCV_ISA_ZICBOZ
> > >  
> > >  	   If you don't know what to do here, say Y.
> > >  
> > > +config RISCV_ISA_ZICBOP
> > 
> > Even if we're not concerned with looping over blocks yet, I think we
> > should introduce zicbop block size DT parsing at the same time we bring
> > zicbop support to the kernel (it's just more copy+paste from zicbom and
> > zicboz). It's a bit annoying that the CMO spec doesn't state that block
> > sizes should be the same for m/z/p. And, the fact that m/z/p are all
> > separate extensions leads us to needing to parse block sizes for all
> > three, despite the fact that in practice they'll probably be the same.
> 
> Although, I saw on a different mailing list that Andrei Warkentin
> interpreted section 2.7 "Software Discovery" of the spec, which states
> 
> """
> The initial set of CMO extensions requires the following information to be
> discovered by software:
> 
> * The size of the cache block for management and prefetch instructions
> * The size of the cache block for zero instructions
> * CBIE support at each privilege level
> 
> Other general cache characteristics may also be specified in the discovery
> mechanism.
> """
> 
> as management and prefetch having the same block size and only zero
> potentially having a different size. That looks like a reasonable
> interpretation to me, too.

TBH, I don't really care what ambiguous wording the spec has used, we
have the opportunity to make better decisions if we please. I hate the
fact that the specs are often not abundantly clear about things like this.

> So, we could maybe proceed with assuming we
> can use zicbom_block_size for prefetch, for now. If a platform comes along
> that interpreted the spec differently, requiring prefetch block size to
> be specified separately, then we'll cross that bridge when we get there.

That said, I think I suggested originally having the zicboz stuff default
to the zicbom size too, so I'd be happy with prefetch stuff working
exclusively that way until someone comes along looking for different sizes.
The binding should be updated though since

  riscv,cbom-block-size:
    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/uint32
    description:
      The blocksize in bytes for the Zicbom cache operations.

would no longer be a complete description.

While thinking about new wording though, it feels really clunky to describe
it like:
	The block size in bytes for the Zicbom cache operations, Zicbop
	cache operations will default to this block size where not
	explicitly defined.

since there's then no way to actually define the block size if it is
different. Unless you've got some magic wording, I'd rather document
riscv,cbop-block-size, even if we are going to use riscv,cbom-block-size
as the default.

Cheers,
Conor.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-15 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-10  8:28 [PATCH V11 00/17] riscv: Add Native/Paravirt qspinlock support guoren
2023-09-10  8:28 ` [PATCH V11 01/17] asm-generic: ticket-lock: Reuse arch_spinlock_t of qspinlock guoren
2023-09-11 19:05   ` Leonardo Brás
2023-09-13  1:55     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-13  7:59       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:28 ` [PATCH V11 02/17] asm-generic: ticket-lock: Move into ticket_spinlock.h guoren
2023-09-13  8:15   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:28 ` [PATCH V11 03/17] riscv: Use Zicbop in arch_xchg when available guoren
2023-09-13  8:49   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-15 12:36     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-16  1:25       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 14:34         ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:13           ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-19  7:53             ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19 14:38               ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14 13:47   ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-15  8:22     ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-15 11:07       ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-15 11:26         ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-15 12:22           ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-15 12:42             ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-16  0:05               ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-15 20:32         ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14 14:25   ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-14 14:47     ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-15 11:37       ` Conor Dooley [this message]
2023-09-15 12:14         ` Andrew Jones
2023-09-15 12:53           ` Conor Dooley
2023-12-31  8:29   ` guoren
2023-09-10  8:28 ` [PATCH V11 04/17] locking/qspinlock: Improve xchg_tail for number of cpus >= 16k guoren
2023-09-11  2:35   ` Waiman Long
2023-09-11  3:09     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-11 13:03       ` Waiman Long
2023-09-12  1:10         ` Guo Ren
2023-09-13  8:55           ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-13 12:52             ` Guo Ren
2023-09-13 13:06               ` Waiman Long
2023-09-14  3:45                 ` Guo Ren
2023-09-10  8:28 ` [PATCH V11 05/17] riscv: qspinlock: Add basic queued_spinlock support guoren
2023-09-13 20:28   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14  4:46     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-14  9:43       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-15  2:10         ` Guo Ren
2023-09-15  9:08           ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 15:02             ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:20               ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 06/17] riscv: qspinlock: Introduce combo spinlock guoren
2023-09-10 11:06   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-13 20:37     ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-13 20:49       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14  4:49         ` Guo Ren
2023-09-14  7:17           ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 07/17] riscv: qspinlock: Introduce qspinlock param for command line guoren
2023-09-11 15:22   ` Waiman Long
2023-09-12  1:06     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-11 15:34   ` Waiman Long
2023-09-12  1:08     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-14  7:32       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-14 17:23         ` Waiman Long
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 08/17] riscv: qspinlock: Add virt_spin_lock() support for KVM guest guoren
2023-09-14  8:02   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 15:12     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:30       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-19  8:04         ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19 14:40           ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 09/17] riscv: qspinlock: errata: Add ERRATA_THEAD_WRITE_ONCE fixup guoren
2023-09-14  8:32   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 15:15     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:34       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 10/17] riscv: qspinlock: errata: Enable qspinlock for T-HEAD processors guoren
2023-09-14  9:36   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 11/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: Add paravirt qspinlock skeleton guoren
2023-09-15  5:42   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 14:58     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:43       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 12/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: Add nopvspin kernel parameter guoren
2023-09-15  6:05   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 15:03     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:44       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 13/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: Add SBI implementation guoren
2023-09-15  6:23   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-17 15:06     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-19  5:45       ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 14/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: Add kconfig entry guoren
2023-09-15  6:25   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 15/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: Add trace point for pv_kick/wait guoren
2023-09-15  6:33   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 16/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: KVM: Add paravirt qspinlock skeleton guoren
2023-09-15  6:46   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:29 ` [PATCH V11 17/17] RISC-V: paravirt: pvqspinlock: KVM: Implement kvm_sbi_ext_pvlock_kick_cpu() guoren
2023-09-15  6:52   ` Leonardo Bras
2023-09-10  8:58 ` [PATCH V11 00/17] riscv: Add Native/Paravirt qspinlock support Conor Dooley
2023-09-10  9:16   ` Guo Ren
2023-09-10  9:20     ` Guo Ren
2023-09-10  9:31     ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-10  9:49       ` Guo Ren
2023-09-10 19:45         ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-11  3:36           ` Guo Ren
2023-09-11 12:52             ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-12  1:33               ` Guo Ren
2023-09-12  8:07                 ` Conor Dooley
2023-09-12 10:58                   ` Guo Ren
2023-11-06 20:42 ` Leonardo Bras
2023-11-12  4:23   ` Guo Ren
2023-11-13 10:19     ` Leonardo Bras Soares Passos

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