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From: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Feng" <feng.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:59:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1436536787.22672.418.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150710134713.GJ23038@l.oracle.com>


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On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 09:47 -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 02:40:17PM +0200, Dario Faggioli wrote:

> > However, there is no one single feature (e.g., for hardware enablement,
> > like yours) that I can find, within Xen, that builds on top of runstates
> > (the only exception is credit1 scheduler, and only it, using
> > runstate.state_entry_time once... and I think that's quite bad of it,
> > FWIW).
> 
> Linux kernel uses them. It ends up reporting the values for 'steal time'
> as the RUNSTATE_runnable. Aka if you run 'top' and see 'st' - that is it.
>
It sure does, and it is in its own full right of doing it! I think I
said that they're there for accounting and information reporting to
upper layer, and Linux is what populates one of the (various) upper
layers, as far as Xen is concerned, isn't it?

What I'm arguing about is not them being there at all, nor about them
being used for their own purpose, it's much rather about them being
(ab)used for hardware enablement _in_Xen_ itself. :-)

> > Theoretically speaking, runstates could well disappear, or change
> > meaning, or be replaced by something else, and only the accounting and
> > reporting code (as far as the hypervisor is concerned, of course) would
> > suffer/need changing.
> 
> Please don't remove them! They helped me in tracking down a situation
> where guests had 20% of them time-slice taken out by a global spinlock!
>
Hey, I said 'theoretically speaking'! :-)

I don't have, and am not aware of any other plan to get rid of them..
So, fear nothing, they're not going anywhere... are are they?
Mhwuawhuahwua :-D :-D

Dario
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Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24  5:18 [v3 00/15] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 01/15] Vt-d Posted-intterrupt (PI) design Feng Wu
2015-06-24  6:15   ` Meng Xu
2015-06-24  6:19     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:21   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  7:29     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 02/15] Add helper macro for X86_FEATURE_CX16 feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-24 17:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 03/15] Add cmpxchg16b support for x86-64 Feng Wu
2015-06-24 18:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:06     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:12       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:33         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:43           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:50             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:50         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-10 12:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 04/15] iommu: Add iommu_intpost to control VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature Feng Wu
2015-06-25  9:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25  9:47     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-25 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 12:47         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 05/15] vt-d: VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-25 10:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 13:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:32   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  8:00     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 06/15] vmx: Extend struct pi_desc to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  2:40     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:26         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:36           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:43             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:28               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  9:30                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  3:13     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 07/15] vmx: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:32   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:46     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  2:32     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-08  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 08/15] Suppress posting interrupts when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:48     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:11     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:58         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 13:20   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 09/15] vt-d: Extend struct iremap_entry to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:52     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:27   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 10/15] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:22   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  9:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:12     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  6:04     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:24       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:38         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:46           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:55             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 11/15] Update IRTE according to guest interrupt config changes Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:31     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:52         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 12/15] vmx: posted-interrupt handling when vCPU is blocked Feng Wu
2015-06-29 17:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:36     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 10:48       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <559181F9.6020106@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:51     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30  2:59       ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  9:46         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30 10:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 13:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:27       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:30         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  8:58           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:09             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 10:41               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:30           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 10:56             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:04             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:10               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:16               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 12:38                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:59                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03  1:33                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:25     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 12:46     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08 13:09       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 22:49         ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-09  7:25           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  6:21             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  7:29                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  8:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  8:57                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 22:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 13/15] vmx: Properly handle notification event when vCPU is running Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:40   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling Feng Wu
     [not found]   ` <55918214.4030102@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:58     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:32       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:34         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:20         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09  3:09           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09  8:18             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 11:19             ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:29               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:38               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09 12:42                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:07                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 12:40                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10 13:47                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 13:59                         ` Dario Faggioli [this message]
2015-07-09 12:53                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 13:44                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-09 14:18                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 14:27                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 14:47                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  5:59                         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10 11:05                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14  5:44                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:08                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:54                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-14 15:20                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14 16:41                                     ` George Dunlap
2015-07-14 16:02                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-15  0:54                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17  7:46                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17 10:13                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17 22:57                                       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-18 13:43                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:15                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:24   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 15/15] Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:25   ` Tian, Kevin

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