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From: "Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>
To: Feng Wu <feng.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, "keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
	"george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com" <george.dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Yang Z Zhang <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [v3 10/15] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:32:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A644E1020000780009135C@mail.emea.novell.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E959C4978C3B6342920538CF579893F002611E22@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com>

>>> On 15.07.15 at 10:55, <feng.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 4:46 PM
>> >>> On 15.07.15 at 10:38, <feng.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 4:25 PM
>> >> >>> On 15.07.15 at 08:04, <feng.wu@intel.com> wrote:
>> >> >> From: Jan Beulich [mailto:JBeulich@suse.com]
>> >> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:02 PM
>> >> >> I'm particularly worried by the call to acpi_find_matched_drhd_unit()
>> >> >> - is it maybe worth storing the iommu pointer in struct msi_desc?
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it worth, Like Andrew also mentioned this point before. I tend
>> >> > to make this a independent work and do it later, since the 4.6 release
>> >> > is coming, I am still try my best to target it. Could you please share
>> >> > your concern here, performance? Or other things? Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Interrupt latency in particular.
>> >
>> > This update IRTE operation is not so frequently. It only happens in few
>> > times,
>> > especially in the initialization phase of the guest. And even the guest set
>> > the affinity, in the MSI/MSIx configuration doesn't change, QEMU will not
>> > ask Xen to update it.
>> 
>> When the guest sets the affinity, the MSI{,-X} configuration is
>> rather likely to change (at least for Linux guests).
> 
> Yes, it is. But I'd say, it is not a frequent operation. In my test, it only 
> happens
> in the initialization phase and some updates doesn't go the Xen since the
> configuration is the same (QEMU filters it).

Can I please ask you to move away from this way of thinking? What
you see in experiments is useful from a functionality pov, but pretty
meaningless from a security perspective. For that, you'd rather start
thinking about what a _malicious_ guest might be doing.

> And I agree I will change this,
> my question is that can we put this a little late, and I can focus on some
> other critical issue before 4.6 is release, which may make more chance for
> this patch to catch up with 4.6. Is this okay for you?

As long as the feature (due to the other issue) remains experimental,
is off by default, and the code has a prominent comment outlining the
intended improvement, I'd be fine, yes.

Jan

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-15  9:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24  5:18 [v3 00/15] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 01/15] Vt-d Posted-intterrupt (PI) design Feng Wu
2015-06-24  6:15   ` Meng Xu
2015-06-24  6:19     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:21   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  7:29     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 02/15] Add helper macro for X86_FEATURE_CX16 feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-24 17:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 03/15] Add cmpxchg16b support for x86-64 Feng Wu
2015-06-24 18:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:06     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:12       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:33         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:43           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:50             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:50         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-10 12:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 04/15] iommu: Add iommu_intpost to control VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature Feng Wu
2015-06-25  9:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25  9:47     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-25 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 12:47         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 05/15] vt-d: VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-25 10:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 13:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:32   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  8:00     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 06/15] vmx: Extend struct pi_desc to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  2:40     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:26         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:36           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:43             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:28               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  9:30                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  3:13     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 07/15] vmx: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:32   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:46     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  2:32     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-08  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 08/15] Suppress posting interrupts when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:48     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:11     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:58         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 13:20   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 09/15] vt-d: Extend struct iremap_entry to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:52     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:27   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 10/15] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:22   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  9:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:12     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  6:04     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:24       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:38         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:46           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:55             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:32               ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 11/15] Update IRTE according to guest interrupt config changes Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:31     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:52         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 12/15] vmx: posted-interrupt handling when vCPU is blocked Feng Wu
2015-06-29 17:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:36     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 10:48       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <559181F9.6020106@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:51     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30  2:59       ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  9:46         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30 10:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 13:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:27       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:30         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  8:58           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:09             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 10:41               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:30           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 10:56             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:04             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:10               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:16               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 12:38                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:59                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03  1:33                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:25     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 12:46     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08 13:09       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 22:49         ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-09  7:25           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  6:21             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  7:29                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  8:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  8:57                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 22:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 13/15] vmx: Properly handle notification event when vCPU is running Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:40   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling Feng Wu
     [not found]   ` <55918214.4030102@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:58     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:32       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:34         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:20         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09  3:09           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09  8:18             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 11:19             ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:29               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:38               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09 12:42                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:07                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 12:40                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10 13:47                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 13:59                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 12:53                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 13:44                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-09 14:18                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 14:27                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 14:47                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  5:59                         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10 11:05                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14  5:44                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:08                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:54                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-14 15:20                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14 16:41                                     ` George Dunlap
2015-07-14 16:02                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-15  0:54                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17  7:46                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17 10:13                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17 22:57                                       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-18 13:43                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:15                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:24   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 15/15] Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:25   ` Tian, Kevin

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