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From: "Wu, Feng" <feng.wu@intel.com>
To: Dario Faggioli <dario.faggioli@citrix.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"keir@xen.org" <keir@xen.org>,
	George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>,
	"andrew.cooper3@citrix.com" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	"Zhang, Yang Z" <yang.z.zhang@intel.com>,
	"Wu, Feng" <feng.wu@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:07:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E959C4978C3B6342920538CF579893F0026018D4@SHSMSX104.ccr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1436445732.22672.321.camel@citrix.com>



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dario Faggioli [mailto:dario.faggioli@citrix.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 8:42 PM
> To: Wu, Feng
> Cc: George Dunlap; Tian, Kevin; keir@xen.org; andrew.cooper3@citrix.com;
> xen-devel; jbeulich@suse.com; Zhang, Yang Z
> Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Fwd: [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor
> during vCPU scheduling
> 
> On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 11:38 +0000, Wu, Feng wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dunlapg@gmail.com [mailto:dunlapg@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> George
> > > Dunlap
> 
> > > > Why do you think vcpu_runstaete_change() is not the right place to do
> this?
> > >
> > > Because what the vcpu_runstate_change() function does at the moment is
> > > *update the vcpu runstate variable*.  It doesn't actually change the
> > > runstate -- the runstate is changed in the various bits of code that
> > > call it; and it's not designed to be a generic place to put hooks on
> > > the runstate changing.
> > >
> > > I haven't done a thorough review of this yet, but at least looking
> > > through this patch, and skimming the titles, I don't see anywhere you
> > > handle migration -- what happens if a vcpu that's blocked / offline /
> > > runnable migrates from one cpu to another?  Is the information
> > > updated?
> >
> > Thanks for your review!
> >
> > The migration is handled in arch_pi_desc_update() which is called
> > by vcpu_runstate_change().
> >
> > >
> > > The right thing to do in this situation is either to change
> > > vcpu_runstate_change() so that it is the central place to make all (or
> > > most) hooks happen;
> >
> > Yes, this is my implementation. I think vcpu_runstate_change()
> > is the _central_ place to do things when vCPU state is changed. This
> > makes things clear and simple. I call an arch hooks to update
> > posted-interrupt descriptor in this function.
> >
> Perhaps, one way to double check this line of reasoning (the fact that
> you think this needs to lay on top of runstates, and more specifically
> in that function), would be to come up with some kind of "list of
> requirements", not taking runstates into account.
> 
> I know there is a design document for this series (and I also know I
> could have commented on it earlier, sorry for that), but that itself
> mentions runstates, which does not help.
> 
> What I mean is, can you describe when you need each specific operation
> needs to happen? Something like "descriptor needs to be updated like
> this upon migration", "notification should be disabled when vcpu starts
> running", "notification method should be changed that other way when
> vcpu is preempted", etc.

I cannot see the differences, I think the requirements are clearly listed in
the design doc and the comments of this patch.

> 
> This would help a lot, IMO, figuring out the actual functional
> requirements that needs to be satisfied for things to work well. Once
> that is done, we can go check in the code where is the best place to put
> each call, hook, or whatever.
> 
> 
> Note that I've already tried to infer the above, by looking at the
> patches, and that is making me think that it would be possible to
> implement things in another way. But maybe I'm missing something. So it
> would be really valuable if you, with all your knowledge of how PI
> should work, could do it.

I keep describing how PI works, what the purpose of the two vectors are,
how special they are from the beginning.

Thanks,
Feng


> 
> Thanks and Regards,
> Dario
> --
> <<This happens because I choose it to happen!>> (Raistlin Majere)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Dario Faggioli, Ph.D, http://about.me/dario.faggioli
> Senior Software Engineer, Citrix Systems R&D Ltd., Cambridge (UK)

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-10  0:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 155+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-24  5:18 [v3 00/15] Add VT-d Posted-Interrupts support Feng Wu
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 01/15] Vt-d Posted-intterrupt (PI) design Feng Wu
2015-06-24  6:15   ` Meng Xu
2015-06-24  6:19     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:21   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  7:29     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 02/15] Add helper macro for X86_FEATURE_CX16 feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-24 17:31   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:23   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 03/15] Add cmpxchg16b support for x86-64 Feng Wu
2015-06-24 18:35   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:06     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:12       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:33         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:43           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08  8:50             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  8:50         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-10 12:57   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 04/15] iommu: Add iommu_intpost to control VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature Feng Wu
2015-06-25  9:06   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25  9:47     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-25 10:16       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 12:47         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 05/15] vt-d: VT-d Posted-Interrupts feature detection Feng Wu
2015-06-25 10:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-25 13:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  7:32   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08  8:00     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 06/15] vmx: Extend struct pi_desc to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  7:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:08   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  2:40     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:20       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:26         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:36           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:43             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:28               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  9:30                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  3:13     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 07/15] vmx: Initialize VT-d Posted-Interrupts Descriptor Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:32   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:46     ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  2:32     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-08  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 08/15] Suppress posting interrupts when 'SN' is set Feng Wu
2015-06-29 15:41   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:48     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:06   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:11     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:58         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 13:20   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 09/15] vt-d: Extend struct iremap_entry to support VT-d Posted-Interrupts Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:04   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-06-30  1:52     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08  9:10   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 13:27   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 10/15] vt-d: Add API to update IRTE when VT-d PI is used Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:22   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08  9:59   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:12     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10 14:01   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  6:04     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:24       ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:38         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  8:46           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-15  8:55             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-15  9:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 11/15] Update IRTE according to guest interrupt config changes Feng Wu
2015-06-29 16:46   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 10:31     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:46       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:52         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:54           ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:23   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 12/15] vmx: posted-interrupt handling when vCPU is blocked Feng Wu
2015-06-29 17:07   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 10:36     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 10:48       ` Jan Beulich
     [not found]   ` <559181F9.6020106@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:51     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30  2:59       ` Wu, Feng
2015-06-30  9:46         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-06-30 10:11   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-01 13:26     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:27       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:30         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  8:58           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:09             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 10:41               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 10:30           ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 10:56             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:04             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:10               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02 12:16               ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-02 12:38                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02 12:59                   ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-03  1:33                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:25     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-08 11:02     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 12:46     ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-08 13:09       ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-08 22:49         ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-09  7:25           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  6:21             ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:32               ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  7:29                 ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  8:49                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10  8:57                     ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 22:31       ` Tian, Kevin
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 13/15] vmx: Properly handle notification event when vCPU is running Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:40   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 14/15] Update Posted-Interrupts Descriptor during vCPU scheduling Feng Wu
     [not found]   ` <55918214.4030102@citrix.com>
2015-06-30  2:58     ` Fwd: " Dario Faggioli
2015-07-02  4:32       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  4:34         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-02  8:20         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09  3:09           ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09  8:18             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 11:19             ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:29               ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 11:38               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-09 12:42                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:07                   ` Wu, Feng [this message]
2015-07-10 12:40                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10 13:47                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-07-10 13:59                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 12:53                 ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 13:44                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-09 14:18                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-09 14:27                       ` George Dunlap
2015-07-09 14:47                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  5:59                         ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-10  6:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-10 11:05                             ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14  5:44                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:08                               ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-14 14:54                                 ` Jan Beulich
2015-07-14 15:20                                   ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-14 16:41                                     ` George Dunlap
2015-07-14 16:02                                 ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-15  0:54                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17  7:46                                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-17 10:13                                     ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-17 22:57                                       ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-18 13:43                                         ` Dario Faggioli
2015-07-10  0:15                   ` Wu, Feng
2015-07-08 11:24   ` Tian, Kevin
2015-07-10 14:48   ` Jan Beulich
2015-06-24  5:18 ` [v3 15/15] Add a command line parameter for VT-d posted-interrupts Feng Wu
2015-07-08 11:25   ` Tian, Kevin

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