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From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"daniel.kiper@oracle.com" <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"leif.lindholm@linaro.org" <leif.lindholm@linaro.org>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
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	"christoffer.dall@linaro.org" <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>,
	"jbeulich@suse.com" <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Shannon Zhao <zhaoshenglong@huawei.com>,
	"peter.huangpeng@huawei.com" <peter.huangpeng@huawei.com>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"shannon.zhao@linaro.org" <shannon.zhao@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 13:58:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441889905.24450.382.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150910121514.GE29293@leverpostej>

On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 13:15 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:

> > In any case this should be separate from the shim ABI discussion.
> 
> I disagree; I think this is very much relevant to the ABI discussion.
> That's not to say that I insist on a particular approach, but I think
> that they need to be considered together.

Taking a step back, the reason for using the EFI stub parameters is only
(AFAIK) in order to be able to locate the ACPI RDSP (the root table
pointer), which as it happens is normally passed via one of the EFI
firmware tables.

If there was a way to achieve that goal (i.e. another way to find the RSDP)
without opening the can of UEFI worms then we could consider that opiton
too.

a way != the legacy x86 thing of scanning low memory of the signature, of
course.

Ian.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ian Campbell <ian.campbell-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Stefano Stabellini
	<stefano.stabellini-mvvWK6WmYclDPfheJLI6IQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<daniel.kiper-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	"leif.lindholm-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
	<leif.lindholm-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuEi8DpZVb4nw@public.gmane.org"
	<xen-devel-GuqFBffKawuEi8DpZVb4nw@public.gmane.org>,
	"julien.grall-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<julien.grall-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"freebsd-arm-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org"
	<freebsd-arm-h+KGxgPPiopAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	"matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org"
	<matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"christoffer.dall-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org"
	<christoffer.dall-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"jbeulich-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org"
	<jbeulich-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>,
	Shannon Zhao
	<zhaoshenglong-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"peter.huangpeng-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<peter.huangpeng-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWMP3drIcvDWNA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 13:58:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441889905.24450.382.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150910121514.GE29293@leverpostej>

On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 13:15 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:

> > In any case this should be separate from the shim ABI discussion.
> 
> I disagree; I think this is very much relevant to the ABI discussion.
> That's not to say that I insist on a particular approach, but I think
> that they need to be considered together.

Taking a step back, the reason for using the EFI stub parameters is only
(AFAIK) in order to be able to locate the ACPI RDSP (the root table
pointer), which as it happens is normally passed via one of the EFI
firmware tables.

If there was a way to achieve that goal (i.e. another way to find the RSDP)
without opening the can of UEFI worms then we could consider that opiton
too.

a way != the legacy x86 thing of scanning low memory of the signature, of
course.

Ian.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: ian.campbell@citrix.com (Ian Campbell)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Xen-devel] [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 13:58:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1441889905.24450.382.camel@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150910121514.GE29293@leverpostej>

On Thu, 2015-09-10 at 13:15 +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:

> > In any case this should be separate from the shim ABI discussion.
> 
> I disagree; I think this is very much relevant to the ABI discussion.
> That's not to say that I insist on a particular approach, but I think
> that they need to be considered together.

Taking a step back, the reason for using the EFI stub parameters is only
(AFAIK) in order to be able to locate the ACPI RDSP (the root table
pointer), which as it happens is normally passed via one of the EFI
firmware tables.

If there was a way to achieve that goal (i.e. another way to find the RSDP)
without opening the can of UEFI worms then we could consider that opiton
too.

a way != the legacy x86 thing of scanning low memory of the signature, of
course.

Ian.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-10 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 181+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10  8:41 [PATCH] efi/libstub/fdt: Standardize the names of EFI stub parameters Shannon Zhao
2015-09-10  8:41 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-10  8:41 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-10  9:52 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10  9:52 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10  9:52   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10  9:52   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 10:19   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 10:19     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 10:19     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 11:24     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:24     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:24       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:24       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 11:37       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 11:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 11:37         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 12:15         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:15         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:15           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:15           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:58           ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:58           ` Ian Campbell [this message]
2015-09-10 12:58             ` [Xen-devel] " Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 12:58             ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:08             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 13:08             ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 13:08               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 13:08               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 13:30               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:30                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:30                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:30               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 13:52           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 13:52           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 13:52             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 13:52             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 14:13             ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:13               ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:13               ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:13             ` Leif Lindholm
2015-09-10 14:49             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 14:49               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 14:49               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:10               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:10                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:10                 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 16:23                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:23                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:23                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 16:23                   ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 12:46                   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 12:46                   ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 12:46                     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 12:46                     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 13:14                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:14                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:14                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 13:30                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 13:30                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 13:30                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 13:30                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 15:45                           ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 15:45                           ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  8:42                           ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  8:42                             ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  8:42                             ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:09                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:09                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:09                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:09                               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:31                               ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:31                                 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:31                                 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-14  9:36                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:36                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:36                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 10:39                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 10:39                                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 10:39                                     ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:16                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 11:16                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 11:16                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 11:34                                       ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:34                                       ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:34                                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:34                                         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14 11:16                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 10:39                                   ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-14  9:36                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-11 15:45                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 16:33                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:33                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:33                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:33                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 13:14                     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-11 16:25                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                     ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:25                       ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-12 11:36                       ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-12 11:36                       ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-12 11:36                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-12 11:36                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:25                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:25                         ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:25                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:25                           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-14  9:43                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:43                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:43                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14  9:57                             ` Ian Campbell
     [not found]                             ` <CAKv+Gu9ER1cKvPHobq-wo7ggPesJj4OQ7=aTr24GVpubHvVqjQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14  9:57                               ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14  9:57                                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 10:02                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                 ` <1442224673.3549.131.camel-Sxgqhf6Nn4DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 10:02                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 10:02                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKv+Gu_Gh649EwdtodLY9Q28JhqYg8o6RShXXH1ZbxsfYRfi2Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 10:25                                       ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 10:25                                         ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 10:25                                     ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-14 12:28                               ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 12:28                                 ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 13:09                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                 ` <20150914122858.GI4530-fJNZiO034lp9pOct4yEdx/3oZC3j2Omk@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 13:09                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2015-09-14 13:09                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]                                     ` <CAKv+Gu_z2X=9-qgoKTS7dKLqtSUvysyu9LzZryJqcSR4X8Ss6A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-14 13:57                                       ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 13:57                                         ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 13:57                                     ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 12:28                             ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14  9:47                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14  9:47                           ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14  9:47                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14  9:47                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-14 12:19                           ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 12:19                             ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 12:19                             ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-14 12:19                           ` Daniel Kiper
2015-09-11 11:00                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-11 11:00                 ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-11 11:00                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-11 11:00                   ` Ian Campbell
2015-09-10 16:10               ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 14:49             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 12:55         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 12:55           ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 12:55           ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 14:53           ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 14:53             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 14:53             ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 15:06               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 15:06               ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-11 16:36               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:36               ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:36                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-11 16:36                 ` Mark Rutland
2015-09-10 15:06             ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 12:55         ` Jan Beulich
2015-09-10 11:37       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 10:19   ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
2015-09-10 11:32 ` Andrew Turner
2015-09-10 11:32   ` Andrew Turner
2015-09-10 11:32   ` Andrew Turner
2015-09-10 11:48   ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 11:48     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 11:48     ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-10 12:05       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-10 12:05       ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-10 12:53       ` [Xen-devel] " Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:53         ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:53         ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:53       ` Julien Grall
2015-09-10 12:05     ` Roger Pau Monné
2015-09-10 11:48   ` Julien Grall
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-17 11:43   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-17 11:43   ` Shannon Zhao
2015-09-17 11:43 ` Shannon Zhao

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