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From: u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de (Uwe Kleine-König)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 00/15] pwm: add support for atomic update
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:42:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150702074243.GE11824@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5594E56C.3010908@ti.com>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 10:17:00AM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/07/15 10:03, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
> > Hello Boris,
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 10:21:46AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >> This series adds support for atomic PWM update, or ITO, the capability
> >> to update all the parameters of a PWM device (enabled/disabled, period,
> >> duty and polarity) in one go.
> > on first reading the subject of your series I thought it was about
> > asserting that the newly set config is active before the call to
> > pwm_config (et al) returns. That's a problem I addressed a few times in
> > the past. I wonder if it's only me or if a different wording should be
> > used for "update all parameters with a single function call".
> 
> In my vocabulary "blocking" means that the work is done before the
> function returns, and "atomic" means the work is done in one step.
blocking is IMHO something slightly different, maybe "synchronous" is a
good term for "done when the call returns".

For write(2) I'd say
 - blocking means to only return when the write request has reached the
   kernel, but not necessarily the medium. I.e. the caller doesn't need
   to care further; and
 - atomic means that the contents of two concurrent writers don't mix in
   the resulting file content; and
 - synchronous means that once write() returns the data is on the
   medium.

So atomic seems to be fine to use here.

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-K?nig            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, Alexandre Courbot <gnurou@gmail.com>,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@wwwdotorg.org>,
	Bryan Wu <cooloney@gmail.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	Doug Anderson <dianders@google.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@rpsys.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Jingoo Han <jingoohan1@gmail.com>,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@jcrosoft.com>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@samsung.com>,
	linux-leds@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/15] pwm: add support for atomic update
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 09:42:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150702074243.GE11824@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5594E56C.3010908@ti.com>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 10:17:00AM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/07/15 10:03, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello Boris,
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 10:21:46AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >> This series adds support for atomic PWM update, or ITO, the capability
> >> to update all the parameters of a PWM device (enabled/disabled, period,
> >> duty and polarity) in one go.
> > on first reading the subject of your series I thought it was about
> > asserting that the newly set config is active before the call to
> > pwm_config (et al) returns. That's a problem I addressed a few times in
> > the past. I wonder if it's only me or if a different wording should be
> > used for "update all parameters with a single function call".
> 
> In my vocabulary "blocking" means that the work is done before the
> function returns, and "atomic" means the work is done in one step.
blocking is IMHO something slightly different, maybe "synchronous" is a
good term for "done when the call returns".

For write(2) I'd say
 - blocking means to only return when the write request has reached the
   kernel, but not necessarily the medium. I.e. the caller doesn't need
   to care further; and
 - atomic means that the contents of two concurrent writers don't mix in
   the resulting file content; and
 - synchronous means that once write() returns the data is on the
   medium.

So atomic seems to be fine to use here.

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

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From: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/15] pwm: add support for atomic update
Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2015 07:42:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150702074243.GE11824@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5594E56C.3010908@ti.com>

On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 10:17:00AM +0300, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/07/15 10:03, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello Boris,
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 10:21:46AM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> >> This series adds support for atomic PWM update, or ITO, the capability
> >> to update all the parameters of a PWM device (enabled/disabled, period,
> >> duty and polarity) in one go.
> > on first reading the subject of your series I thought it was about
> > asserting that the newly set config is active before the call to
> > pwm_config (et al) returns. That's a problem I addressed a few times in
> > the past. I wonder if it's only me or if a different wording should be
> > used for "update all parameters with a single function call".
> 
> In my vocabulary "blocking" means that the work is done before the
> function returns, and "atomic" means the work is done in one step.
blocking is IMHO something slightly different, maybe "synchronous" is a
good term for "done when the call returns".

For write(2) I'd say
 - blocking means to only return when the write request has reached the
   kernel, but not necessarily the medium. I.e. the caller doesn't need
   to care further; and
 - atomic means that the contents of two concurrent writers don't mix in
   the resulting file content; and
 - synchronous means that once write() returns the data is on the
   medium.

So atomic seems to be fine to use here.

Best regards
Uwe

-- 
Pengutronix e.K.                           | Uwe Kleine-König            |
Industrial Linux Solutions                 | http://www.pengutronix.de/  |

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-02  7:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 204+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-01  8:21 [RFC PATCH 00/15] pwm: add support for atomic update Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] pwm: add the pwm_is_enabled() helper Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:47   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:47     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:47     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] pwm: fix pwm_get_period and pwm_get_duty_cycle prototypes Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:50   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:50     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:50     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] pwm: add pwm_get_polarity helper function Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:52   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:52     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:52     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] pwm: make use of pwm_get_xxx helpers where appropriate Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:00   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:00     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:00     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] pwm: introduce default period and polarity concepts Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  6:44   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  6:44     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  6:44     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:49     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:49       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:49       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:03       ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:03         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:03         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:14         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:14           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:14           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:22           ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:22             ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:22             ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:32             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:32               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:32               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] pwm: define a new pwm_state struct Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:04   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:04     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:04     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:01     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:01       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:01       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:09       ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:09         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:09         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:12         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:12           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:12           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] pwm: move the enabled/disabled info to " Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:11   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:11     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:11     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] backlight: pwm_bl: remove useless call to pwm_set_period Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:16   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:16     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:16     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:21     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:21       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:21       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:36       ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:36         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:36         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:50         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:50           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:50           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:10           ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:10             ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:10             ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:57             ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:57               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:57               ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:01               ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:01                 ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:01                 ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] pwm: declare a default PWM state Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] pwm: add the PWM initial state retrieval infra Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:01   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:01     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:01     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:42     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:42       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:42       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] pwm: add the core infrastructure to allow atomic update Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  8:59   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:59     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  8:59     ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  9:48     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:48       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  9:48       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20 10:04       ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:04         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20 10:04         ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] pwm: rockchip: add initial state retrieval Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 21:44   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:44     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:44     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-02  7:46     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:46       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:46       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] pwm: rockchip: add support for atomic update Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:21   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 21:48   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:48     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:48     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-02  7:43     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:43       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:43       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] regulator: pwm: implement ->enable(), ->disable() and ->is_enabled methods Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 11:58   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 11:58     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 11:58     ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 12:05     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 12:05       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 12:05       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 12:08       ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 12:08         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 12:08         ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 12:19         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 12:19           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 12:19           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 10:50   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 10:50     ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 10:50     ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 11:02     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:02       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:02       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:08       ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 11:08         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 11:08         ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 11:16         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:16           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:16           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] regulator: pwm: properly initialize the ->state field Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01  8:22   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 10:51   ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 10:51     ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 10:51     ` Mark Brown
2015-07-14 11:03     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-14 11:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-01 21:50 ` [RFC PATCH 16/15] pwm: add informations about polarity, duty cycle and period to debugfs Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:50   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:50   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-02 13:01   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02 13:01     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02 13:01     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-03  8:43     ` [PATCH] " Heiko Stübner
2015-07-03  8:43       ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-03  8:43       ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:57 ` [RFC PATCH 00/15] pwm: add support for atomic update Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:57   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-01 21:57   ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-02  7:55   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:55     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:55     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:03 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:03   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:03   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:17   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2015-07-02  7:17     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2015-07-02  7:17     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2015-07-02  7:42     ` Uwe Kleine-König [this message]
2015-07-02  7:42       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:42       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2015-07-02  7:30   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:30     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-02  7:30     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:16 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:16   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:16   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-07-20  7:43 ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:43   ` Thierry Reding
2015-07-20  7:43   ` Thierry Reding

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