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From: Parav Pandit <pandit.parav@gmail.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
Cc: "Hefty, Sean" <sean.hefty@intel.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"cgroups@vger.kernel.org" <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lizefan@huawei.com" <lizefan@huawei.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"james.l.morris@oracle.com" <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	"serge@hallyn.com" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Matan Barak <matanb@mellanox.com>,
	"raindel@mellanox.com" <raindel@mellanox.com>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:11:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG53R5VsFW+h9gU0SgidPwS7nQbyiMdShqNopbFX0=MwaFAYFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150915034549.GA27847@obsidianresearch.com>

Hi Jason, Sean, Tejun,

I am in process of defining new approach, design based on the feedback
given here for new RDMA cgroup from all of you.
I have also collected feedback from Liran yesterday and ORNL folks too.

Soon I will post the new approach, high level APIs and functionality
for review before submitting actual implementation.

Regards,
Parav Pandit

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 08:38:54AM +0530, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>> As you precisely described, about wild ratio,
>> we are asking vendor driver (bottom most layer) to statically define
>> what the resource pool is, without telling him which application are
>> we going to run to use those pool.
>> Therefore vendor layer cannot ever define "right" resource pool.
>
> No, I'm saying the resource pool is *well defined* and *fixed* by each
> hardware.
>
> The only question is how do we expose the N resource limits, the list
> of which is totally vendor specific.
>


>> rdma cgroup will allow us to run post 512 or 1024 containers without
>> using PCIe SR-IOV, without creating any vendor specific resource
>> pools.
>
> If you ignore any vendor specific resource limits then you've just
> left open a hole, a wayward container can exhaust all others - so what
> was the point of doing all this work?
>
> Jason

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Parav Pandit <pandit.parav-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe
	<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Hefty,
	Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	"james.l.morris-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<james.l.morris-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org"
	<serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	Matan Barak <matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org"
	<raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org"
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 10:11:01 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG53R5VsFW+h9gU0SgidPwS7nQbyiMdShqNopbFX0=MwaFAYFw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150915034549.GA27847-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>

Hi Jason, Sean, Tejun,

I am in process of defining new approach, design based on the feedback
given here for new RDMA cgroup from all of you.
I have also collected feedback from Liran yesterday and ORNL folks too.

Soon I will post the new approach, high level APIs and functionality
for review before submitting actual implementation.

Regards,
Parav Pandit

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 08:38:54AM +0530, Parav Pandit wrote:
>
>> As you precisely described, about wild ratio,
>> we are asking vendor driver (bottom most layer) to statically define
>> what the resource pool is, without telling him which application are
>> we going to run to use those pool.
>> Therefore vendor layer cannot ever define "right" resource pool.
>
> No, I'm saying the resource pool is *well defined* and *fixed* by each
> hardware.
>
> The only question is how do we expose the N resource limits, the list
> of which is totally vendor specific.
>


>> rdma cgroup will allow us to run post 512 or 1024 containers without
>> using PCIe SR-IOV, without creating any vendor specific resource
>> pools.
>
> If you ignore any vendor specific resource limits then you've just
> left open a hole, a wayward container can exhaust all others - so what
> was the point of doing all this work?
>
> Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-16  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-07 20:38 [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 1/7] devcg: Added user option to rdma resource tracking Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 2/7] devcg: Added rdma resource tracking module Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] devcg: Added infrastructure for rdma device cgroup Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  5:31   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  5:31     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  7:02     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  7:02       ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 4/7] devcg: Added rdma resource tracker object per task Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  5:48   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  5:48     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  7:04     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  8:24       ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  8:24         ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  8:26         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 5/7] devcg: device cgroup's extension for RDMA resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  8:22   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  8:22     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:18     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 13:50       ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 13:50         ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 14:13         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  8:36   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  8:36     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:50     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 10:50       ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 14:10       ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 14:10         ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 6/7] devcg: Added support to use RDMA device cgroup Parav Pandit
2015-09-08  8:40   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08  8:40     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:22     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 13:40       ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 13:40         ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 7/7] devcg: Added Documentation of " Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:55 ` [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 12:45 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 12:45   ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-08 15:23   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-09  3:57   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 16:49     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-10 17:46       ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 17:46         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 20:22         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11  3:39           ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11  4:04             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11  4:04               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11  4:24               ` Doug Ledford
2015-09-11  4:24                 ` Doug Ledford
2015-09-11 14:52                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 14:52                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:26                   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:34                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:34                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:39                       ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:39                         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 19:25                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 10:18                           ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 10:18                             ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:47                   ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:47                     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 19:05                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 19:05                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 19:22                   ` Hefty, Sean
2015-09-11 19:43                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-11 19:43                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-11 20:06                       ` Hefty, Sean
2015-09-14 11:09                         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 14:04                           ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 15:21                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 15:21                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 17:28                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-14 17:28                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-14 18:54                             ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 18:54                               ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 20:18                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-15  3:08                                 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-15  3:45                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-15  3:45                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-16  4:41                                     ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2015-09-16  4:41                                       ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-20 10:35                                     ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-20 10:35                                       ` Haggai Eran
2015-10-28  8:14                                       ` Parav Pandit
2015-10-28  8:14                                         ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 10:15                     ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11  4:43               ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 15:03                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-10 17:48       ` Hefty, Sean

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