From: Parav Pandit <pandit.parav@gmail.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
lizefan@huawei.com, Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
james.l.morris@oracle.com, serge@hallyn.com,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Matan Barak <matanb@mellanox.com>,
raindel@mellanox.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:09:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG53R5WTK8qWrL+CPJKuKHAsR31_E18rbny1PEfLQLqU5A9hEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150911163449.GS8114@mtj.duckdns.org>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello, Parav.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 09:56:31PM +0530, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> Resource run away by application can lead to (a) kernel and (b) other
>> applications left out with no resources situation.
>
> Yeap, that this controller would be able to prevent to a reasonable
> extent.
>
>> Both the problems are the target of this patch set by accounting via cgroup.
>>
>> Performance contention can be resolved with higher level user space,
>> which will tune it.
>
> If individual applications are gonna be allowed to do that, what's to
> prevent them from jacking up their limits?
I should have been more explicit. I didnt mean the application to
control which is allocating it.
> So, I assume you're
> thinking of a central authority overseeing distribution and enforcing
> the policy through cgroups?
>
Exactly.
>> Threshold and fail counters are on the way in follow on patch.
>
> If you're planning on following what the existing memcg did in this
> area, it's unlikely to go well. Would you mind sharing what you have
> on mind in the long term? Where do you see this going?
>
At least current thoughts are: central entity authority monitors fail
count and new threashold count.
Fail count - as similar to other indicates how many time resource
failure occured
threshold count - indicates upto what this resource has gone upto in
usage. (application might not be able to poll on thousands of such
resources entries).
So based on fail count and threshold count, it can tune it further.
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun
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From: Parav Pandit <pandit.parav-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
james.l.morris-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
serge-A9i7LUbDfNHQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Haggai Eran <haggaie-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Matan Barak <matanb-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
raindel-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org,
akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2015 22:09:48 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG53R5WTK8qWrL+CPJKuKHAsR31_E18rbny1PEfLQLqU5A9hEA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150911163449.GS8114-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:04 PM, Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hello, Parav.
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 09:56:31PM +0530, Parav Pandit wrote:
>> Resource run away by application can lead to (a) kernel and (b) other
>> applications left out with no resources situation.
>
> Yeap, that this controller would be able to prevent to a reasonable
> extent.
>
>> Both the problems are the target of this patch set by accounting via cgroup.
>>
>> Performance contention can be resolved with higher level user space,
>> which will tune it.
>
> If individual applications are gonna be allowed to do that, what's to
> prevent them from jacking up their limits?
I should have been more explicit. I didnt mean the application to
control which is allocating it.
> So, I assume you're
> thinking of a central authority overseeing distribution and enforcing
> the policy through cgroups?
>
Exactly.
>> Threshold and fail counters are on the way in follow on patch.
>
> If you're planning on following what the existing memcg did in this
> area, it's unlikely to go well. Would you mind sharing what you have
> on mind in the long term? Where do you see this going?
>
At least current thoughts are: central entity authority monitors fail
count and new threashold count.
Fail count - as similar to other indicates how many time resource
failure occured
threshold count - indicates upto what this resource has gone upto in
usage. (application might not be able to poll on thousands of such
resources entries).
So based on fail count and threshold count, it can tune it further.
> Thanks.
>
> --
> tejun
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Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-07 20:38 [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 1/7] devcg: Added user option to rdma resource tracking Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 2/7] devcg: Added rdma resource tracking module Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 3/7] devcg: Added infrastructure for rdma device cgroup Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 5:31 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 5:31 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 7:02 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 7:02 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 4/7] devcg: Added rdma resource tracker object per task Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 5:48 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 5:48 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 7:04 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 8:24 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 8:24 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 8:26 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 5/7] devcg: device cgroup's extension for RDMA resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 8:22 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 8:22 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:18 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 13:50 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 13:50 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 14:13 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 8:36 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 8:36 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:50 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 10:50 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 14:10 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 14:10 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 6/7] devcg: Added support to use RDMA device cgroup Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 8:40 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 8:40 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 10:22 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 13:40 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 13:40 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-07 20:38 ` [PATCH 7/7] devcg: Added Documentation of " Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:38 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-07 20:55 ` [PATCH 0/7] devcg: device cgroup extension for rdma resource Parav Pandit
2015-09-08 12:45 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 12:45 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-08 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-08 15:23 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-09 3:57 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 16:49 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-10 17:46 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 17:46 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-10 20:22 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 3:39 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 4:04 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 4:04 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 4:24 ` Doug Ledford
2015-09-11 4:24 ` Doug Ledford
2015-09-11 14:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 14:52 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:26 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 16:39 ` Parav Pandit [this message]
2015-09-11 16:39 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 19:25 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 10:18 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 10:18 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:47 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 16:47 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 19:05 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 19:05 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-11 19:22 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-09-11 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-11 19:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-11 20:06 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-09-14 11:09 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 14:04 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 15:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 15:21 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-14 17:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-14 17:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-14 18:54 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 18:54 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 20:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-15 3:08 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-15 3:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-15 3:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-09-16 4:41 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-16 4:41 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-20 10:35 ` Haggai Eran
2015-09-20 10:35 ` Haggai Eran
2015-10-28 8:14 ` Parav Pandit
2015-10-28 8:14 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-14 10:15 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 4:43 ` Parav Pandit
2015-09-11 15:03 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-10 17:48 ` Hefty, Sean
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