From: netdev@kapio-technology.com
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, kuba@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>, Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 16:57:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1c1e7c114f0226b116d9549cea8e7a9@kapio-technology.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220717135951.ho4raw3bzwlgixpb@skbuf>
On 2022-07-17 15:59, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 03:09:10PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-17 14:57, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 02:21:47PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
>> > wrote:
>> > > On 2022-07-13 14:39, Ido Schimmel wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 09:09:58AM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What are "Storm Prevention" and "zero-DPV" FDB entries?
>> > >
>> > > They are both FDB entries that at the HW level drops all packets
>> > > having a
>> > > specific SA, thus using minimum resources.
>> > > (thus the name "Storm Prevention" aka, protection against DOS
>> > > attacks. We
>> > > must remember that we operate with CPU based learning.)
>> >
>> > DPV means Destination Port Vector, and an ATU entry with a DPV of 0
>> > essentially means a FDB entry pointing nowhere, so it will drop the
>> > packet. That's a slight problem with Hans' implementation, the bridge
>> > thinks that the locked FDB entry belongs to port X, but in reality it
>> > matches on all bridged ports (since it matches by FID). FID allocation
>> > in mv88e6xxx is slightly strange, all VLAN-unaware bridge ports,
>> > belonging to any bridge, share the same FID, so the FDB databases are
>> > not exactly isolated from each other.
>>
>> But if the locked port is vlan aware and has a pvid, it should not
>> block
>> other ports.
>
> I don't understand what you want to say by that. It will block all
> other
> packets with the same MAC SA that are classified to the same FID.
> In case of VLAN-aware bridges, the mv88e6xxx driver allocates a new FID
> for each VID (see mv88e6xxx_atu_new). In other words, if a locked port
> is VLAN-aware and has a pvid, then whatever the PVID may be, all ports
> in that same VLAN are still blocked in the same way.
Maybe I am just trying to understand the problem you are posing, so
afaics MAC addresses should be unique and having the same MAC address
behind a locked port and a not-locked port seems like a
mis-configuration regardless of vlan setup? As the zero-DPV entry only
blocks the specific SA MAC on a specific vlan, which is behind a locked
port, there shouldn't be any problem...?
If the host behind a locked port starts sending on another vlan than
where it got the first locked entry, another locked entry will occur, as
the locked entries are MAC + vlan.
>
>> Besides the fid will be zero with vlan unaware afaik, and all with
>> zero fid do not create locked entries.
>
> If by 0 you mean 1 (MV88E6XXX_FID_BRIDGED), then you are correct: ports
> with FID 0 (MV88E6XXX_FID_STANDALONE) should not create locked FDB
> entries, because they are, well, standalone and not bridged.
> Again I don't exactly see the relevance though.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: netdev@kapio-technology.com
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: Ivan Vecera <ivecera@redhat.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
Nikolay Aleksandrov <razor@blackwall.org>,
Roopa Prabhu <roopa@nvidia.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
kuba@kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers
Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2022 16:57:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <e1c1e7c114f0226b116d9549cea8e7a9@kapio-technology.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220717135951.ho4raw3bzwlgixpb@skbuf>
On 2022-07-17 15:59, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 03:09:10PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
> wrote:
>> On 2022-07-17 14:57, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 02:21:47PM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
>> > wrote:
>> > > On 2022-07-13 14:39, Ido Schimmel wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 09:09:58AM +0200, netdev@kapio-technology.com
>> > > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > What are "Storm Prevention" and "zero-DPV" FDB entries?
>> > >
>> > > They are both FDB entries that at the HW level drops all packets
>> > > having a
>> > > specific SA, thus using minimum resources.
>> > > (thus the name "Storm Prevention" aka, protection against DOS
>> > > attacks. We
>> > > must remember that we operate with CPU based learning.)
>> >
>> > DPV means Destination Port Vector, and an ATU entry with a DPV of 0
>> > essentially means a FDB entry pointing nowhere, so it will drop the
>> > packet. That's a slight problem with Hans' implementation, the bridge
>> > thinks that the locked FDB entry belongs to port X, but in reality it
>> > matches on all bridged ports (since it matches by FID). FID allocation
>> > in mv88e6xxx is slightly strange, all VLAN-unaware bridge ports,
>> > belonging to any bridge, share the same FID, so the FDB databases are
>> > not exactly isolated from each other.
>>
>> But if the locked port is vlan aware and has a pvid, it should not
>> block
>> other ports.
>
> I don't understand what you want to say by that. It will block all
> other
> packets with the same MAC SA that are classified to the same FID.
> In case of VLAN-aware bridges, the mv88e6xxx driver allocates a new FID
> for each VID (see mv88e6xxx_atu_new). In other words, if a locked port
> is VLAN-aware and has a pvid, then whatever the PVID may be, all ports
> in that same VLAN are still blocked in the same way.
Maybe I am just trying to understand the problem you are posing, so
afaics MAC addresses should be unique and having the same MAC address
behind a locked port and a not-locked port seems like a
mis-configuration regardless of vlan setup? As the zero-DPV entry only
blocks the specific SA MAC on a specific vlan, which is behind a locked
port, there shouldn't be any problem...?
If the host behind a locked port starts sending on another vlan than
where it got the first locked entry, another locked entry will occur, as
the locked entries are MAC + vlan.
>
>> Besides the fid will be zero with vlan unaware afaik, and all with
>> zero fid do not create locked entries.
>
> If by 0 you mean 1 (MV88E6XXX_FID_BRIDGED), then you are correct: ports
> with FID 0 (MV88E6XXX_FID_STANDALONE) should not create locked FDB
> entries, because they are, well, standalone and not bridged.
> Again I don't exactly see the relevance though.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-17 14:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-07-07 15:29 [PATCH v4 net-next 0/6] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 1/6] net: bridge: add locked entry fdb flag to extend locked port feature Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-10 8:20 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-10 8:20 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 2/6] net: switchdev: add support for offloading of fdb locked flag Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-08 8:54 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 8:54 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-02 8:27 ` netdev
2022-08-02 8:27 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-02 10:13 ` netdev
2022-08-02 10:13 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-08 7:12 ` kernel test robot
2022-07-08 8:49 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 8:49 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 9:06 ` netdev
2022-07-08 9:06 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-08 9:15 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 9:15 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 9:27 ` netdev
2022-07-08 9:27 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-08 9:50 ` netdev
2022-07-08 9:50 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-08 11:56 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 11:56 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 12:34 ` netdev
2022-07-08 12:34 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-10 8:35 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-10 8:35 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-13 7:09 ` netdev
2022-07-13 7:09 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-13 12:39 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-13 12:39 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-17 12:21 ` netdev
2022-07-17 12:21 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-17 12:57 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 12:57 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 13:09 ` netdev
2022-07-17 13:09 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-17 13:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 13:59 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 14:57 ` netdev [this message]
2022-07-17 14:57 ` netdev
2022-07-17 15:08 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 15:08 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 16:10 ` netdev
2022-07-17 16:10 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-21 11:54 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 11:54 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 15:20 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-17 15:20 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-17 15:53 ` netdev
2022-07-17 15:53 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-21 11:59 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 11:59 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 13:27 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-21 13:27 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-21 14:20 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 14:20 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-24 11:10 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-24 11:10 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-08-01 11:57 ` netdev
2022-08-01 11:57 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-01 13:14 ` netdev
2022-08-01 13:14 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-02 12:54 ` netdev
2022-08-02 12:54 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-01 15:33 ` netdev
2022-08-01 15:33 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-09 9:20 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-09 9:20 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-08-09 20:00 ` netdev
2022-08-09 20:00 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-10 7:21 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-10 7:21 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-08-10 8:40 ` netdev
2022-08-10 8:40 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-11 11:28 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-11 11:28 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-08-12 15:33 ` netdev
2022-08-12 15:33 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-16 7:51 ` netdev
2022-08-16 7:51 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-08-17 6:21 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-17 6:21 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-21 11:51 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 11:51 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-08 20:39 ` kernel test robot
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 4/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: allow reading FID when handling ATU violations Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 5/6] net: dsa: mv88e6xxx: mac-auth/MAB implementation Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-08 9:46 ` kernel test robot
2022-07-17 0:47 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 0:47 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-17 12:34 ` netdev
2022-07-17 12:34 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-21 12:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-07-21 12:04 ` [Bridge] " Vladimir Oltean
2022-08-19 8:28 ` netdev
2022-08-19 8:28 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 6/6] selftests: forwarding: add test of MAC-Auth Bypass to locked port tests Hans Schultz
2022-07-07 15:29 ` [Bridge] " Hans Schultz
2022-07-10 7:29 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-07-10 7:29 ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2022-07-12 12:28 ` netdev
2022-07-12 12:28 ` [Bridge] " netdev
2022-07-08 1:00 ` [PATCH v4 net-next 0/6] Extend locked port feature with FDB locked flag (MAC-Auth/MAB) Jakub Kicinski
2022-07-08 1:00 ` [Bridge] " Jakub Kicinski
2022-08-11 5:09 ` Benjamin Poirier
2022-08-11 5:09 ` [Bridge] " Benjamin Poirier
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-08-12 12:29 [PATCH v4 net-next 3/6] drivers: net: dsa: add locked fdb entry flag to drivers netdev
2022-08-14 14:55 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-19 9:51 ` netdev
2022-08-21 7:08 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-21 13:43 ` netdev
2022-08-22 5:40 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-22 7:49 ` netdev
2022-08-23 6:48 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-23 7:13 ` netdev
2022-08-23 7:24 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-23 7:37 ` netdev
2022-08-23 12:36 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-24 7:07 ` netdev
2022-08-23 11:41 ` netdev
2022-08-25 9:36 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-25 10:28 ` netdev
2022-08-25 15:14 ` netdev
2022-08-24 20:29 ` netdev
2022-08-25 9:23 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-25 10:27 ` netdev
2022-08-25 11:58 ` Ido Schimmel
2022-08-25 13:41 ` netdev
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